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[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess I also have to keep explaining this…

Atheists do not disbelief what God is, but what they claim God to be

…that’s why Christians in online circles are clueless about atheists. We don’t claim a god. Christians do (among many other religionist types). The burden of proof is on them. My disbelief in a god is the same disbelief that my refrigerator will decide to wake up, sprout legs, walk out of my house and go live with another family. I make no claim of existence about either.

And since no religionist in history who does make such a claim of the existence of a god has yet to scientifically, objectively, with peer-review, proven such a deity exists, I have no reason to believe one exists.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually the quote is in reference to how atheist interpretations of the Bible often miss Historical Context or mistake allegory for literal.

The fact that you misunderstood it kinda proved the point.

I don't believe in God either, but I find philosophy and mythology interesting which is why I know this...

That and a close friend of mine is Catholic.

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You made a statement on how Christians in online circles view atheists. I refute their premise. That's not misunderstanding. That's simply stating they are wrong. But it's cool that you keep fighting for their way of incorrect thinking. I'm sure they appreciate it.

[–] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbt 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't refute their premise, because you didn't understand it in the first place.

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What did you do, create a separate account to reply with? Or do idiots just flock together in this thread? You’re not worth my time.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not defending them, I'm merely pointing out that you are mocking something you don't understand. I'm not saying Christianity is unmockable, I'm saying, it's way funnier when you actually know what you're making fun of.

[–] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbt 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay, fine, I'll prove that the gods exist.

Richard Dawkins coined the idea of a "meme", which is the cultural equivalent of a gene. It's an idea that can grow and spread through a population, and mutate along the way. The most successful memes are spread more, and so over time memes evolve to become better at spreading themselves. Anything can be a meme. A meme could be a recipe, or a style of fashion, or a joke, or a technology, or a language. Most memes are helpful.

Some memes are so successful that people worship them. Chaos magicians call these memes "egregores". Egregores rule our society. Capitalism is an egregore, and so is the USA, and so is Jesus. These are ideas so powerful they shape the course of history itself. Why did the Conquistadores try to exterminate south american religions and teach the locals about "God"? Because a meme told them to. Why did the crusades happen? A meme did it.

Egregores are powerful creatures capable of steering the course of humanity. They are arguably alive, and are capable of taking intentional actions to secure their own survival and dominance. They are worshipped by billions of people, and are capable of having a personal relationship with every one of their worshippers, because they are spread across millions of brains and have access to the computational power of all those brains at once.

Egregores are real. How are they not gods?