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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by blue_berry@feddit.de to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

I posted one of my stories here and got as reply that it was bio-punk, because it introduced the Fediverse as a fungi-network.

Now my question is: how should it be depicted in a solarpunk world, especially if it should be understandable to readers from centralized social networks without too much explanation (ideally none). If thought fungal networks would be the perfect metaphor here. Would love to hear some feedback on this.

(If you want a more detailed genre-definition, look here: https://rant.li/2hzlaqp5q4)

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[-] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago

Glad you made it over to slrpnk :)

I love that youre creating a story based around spreading fediverse principles.

I do think the lore works really well in your story. Fungus as an alternative mode of functioning works well in the setting you created for the story & parallels alternative communities like lemmy or irl collectives.

Maybe expanding some of the sections could help with grounding some of more abstract areas and would give more space for exposition to make the work more approachable for mainstream readers.

[-] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

More specifically, fungus as a metaphor for how a decentralized network functions is great. All nodes are connected through clusters/communities, allowing information to be passed, but also allowing groups to remain somewhat separate. You can even have kicking out certain people from the hive mind as a parallel to blocking certain malicious users.

[-] blue_berry@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Interesting idea. I will probably that. The art will be to make it understandable and approachable to the reader. Maybe it will work by eating a certain mushroom and thinking about the person to block ... let's see

[-] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

Or it could be a purposful cutting of the mycelial connection that binds them to the group? Same with cutting connections to a specific cluster that us deemed toxic or unsafe. Like maybe one town starts having literally everyone join the fungiverse, and other clusters have to come together to dissolve the connection to keep their own minds from being overrun?

[-] blue_berry@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Really like the town example; thinking of fediverse server as towns is cool. Although one shouldn't overdo it, because that's exactly the point of the Fungiverse/Fediverse: to connect people that are not locally at the same place.

I think adding an additional action is needed for defederation. It could of course be solved by many people concentrating on defederation, but then: what if a myzel has a leader. The members could just defederation without telling them.

I think it would be cool if leaders could be declared by them eating a certain mushroom, which grants them certain abilities like defederation. Of course, there might be myzels in which everyone can defederate. So basically the mushroom-eating-idea would allow more diverse forms of server-governance, which I think would be cool.

[-] blue_berry@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thanks, glad you like it :) I'm also currently thinking of expanding parts 2-4 so it becomes more real and exciting.

Though sometimes I do wonder if it is easier to tell them about fungal networks rather than just explaining them how the Fediverse works technically. But for now I remain optimistic

[-] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe you could have the druid character get kind of a introduction the the fungiverse after they eat the mushroom? Maybe their panicking, and a wise character sees it and brings them into the fold. It could even be the fungus chick who becomes the druids companion. Then it doesnt feel so exposition heavy, but still clues the reader into whats going on.

Also: if you want specific feedback, id be happy to annotate a copy of the story or something for you.

Edited to add: i would leave the metaphore to the fediverse as unspoken-- i think the allegory works well and directly stating that it is like this real world thing would break some of the magic & lessen the potential for the allegory to work on multiple levels.

[-] blue_berry@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

I like druids from an asthetic point of view, although I don't want the Fungiverse to become something that you have to reach some kind of higher state of mind to join. It should be simple. You eat a mushroom and that's it, you're in. Druids could of course just be parts of myzels in the Fungiverse.

Also: if you want specific feedback, id be happy to annotate a copy of the story or something for you.

Thanks for the offer, though right now I'm reworking the story and there is much text flying around. Feedback is in general great, currently most helpful would be which parts are fun to read and which are boring.

Edited to add: i would leave the metaphore to the fediverse as unspoken-- i think the allegory works well and directly stating that it is like this real world thing would break some of the magic & lessen the potential for the allegory to work on multiple levels.

Fully agree, for the new version of the story I'm also going to make a new title without Fungiverse in it. The story should speak for itself.

[-] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

I was thinking the wise person wasnt necessary to join the fungiverse, more so that they explained some things. Like they arent necessary, just helpful. Just like how often people new to the fediverse need some help from existing members to get tips and information about it that they might not quite grasp at first.

Good luck on the edits! Im excited to read the next draft when its ready :)

[-] blue_berry@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was thinking the wise person wasnt necessary to join the fungiverse, more so that they explained some things. Like they arent necessary, just helpful. Just like how often people new to the fediverse need some help from existing members to get tips and information about it that they might not quite grasp at first.

Yeah ok, I get that. As long as it optional and not too pushy, I would be okay with that. Just a fan of self-exploration. But asking people can of course be a part of that.

Good luck on the edits! Im excited to read the next draft when its ready :)

Thanks, so far making good progress. Hope it will be ready soon :)

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