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[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

partially modernise in the late 19th century/early 20th century

i'd say the level of 'modernization' in China would've been a rough parity or even less than India overall. in both cases most the rail was built to serve imperial interests, like the most developed system in Manchuria---but China had 27k km of lines in 1945 vs. probably a bit less than 77k in india (when they reorganized it in 1951, can't find earlier overall figures). i'd say most of the progress from the late Qing was more-or-less erased in the warlord era & japanese invasion

i mean it was to the point colonial-developed Manchuria is seen as a big advantage for the Communists to acquire (which btw the Soviets didn't "hand over", i don't know who started that myth the GMT occupied most of it but lost it in early fighting)

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point is that unlike China, India was "deindustrialised" over the 19th century from a fairly advanced 18th century economy.

They had approx same amounts of 19th century tech, sure, but China still had a large base of skilled artisans that could bootstrap internal development of production, while India had a much more vestigial capacity.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

China still had a large base of skilled artisans that could bootstrap internal development of production

did they though? China wasn't industrialized yet but forcibly opened up as a market for western goods. their attempts at building a domestic industrial base were disrupted by the warlords & japan. i don't think there was a nucleic handicraft economy waiting to develop into an industrial one, at least not outside of the most remote places which factory products had never reached.