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Ukrainians disagree. And they are the ones that matter. If you want to live in slavery or without political rights, it is your choice, of course.
Yeah, not only Ukraine, but pretty much every country that's next to Russia.
Well yeah, it's up to them, but I don't think they're monolithic. They'll eventually negotiate once they run out of men or weapons. I don't think they'd be slaves if Russia captured Kyiv either. Perhaps without political rights, but that wasn't much different than before.
I think that's exactly the point - they know how it was before, and they know how it can be by looking in neighboring EU.
Not worth dying for imo
“Give me liberty or give me death”
— Patric Henry
“There are very few things worth dying for, liberty for yourself and for your loved ones is one of them”
— MxM111
Liberty is practically a myth
That depends where you live, what your cultural upbringing is. If you are from Russia, sure. There, it is a myth, and democracy is something to scare people by.