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The Problem with Jon Stewart cancellation highlights a problem for Apple’s content
(arstechnica.com)
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2023
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Shows like this should have zero input from executives. If you are not willing to let the show have free rein, you don’t deserve to host the show.
Hopefully Jon Stewart does something else with less corporate oversight.
I was so excited to have him back and so let down when he was cancelled. I really do hope he goes somewhere else
You should be clear; was he canceled or was just his show canceled?
No, it is a fair question. Over the past few years, a person being cancelled has been defined as someone doing something which makes them a social pariah.
For Jon Stewart, his show got cancelled by his streamer. People will still work with him.
That's not a new phenomenon. We've always had social and professional pariahs. What's new is that social media has made it easier for everyone everywhere to find out you're an asshole. Used to be only the powerful people could ruin your career and get you fired and blacklisted. Maybe you pissed off the wrong executive. Maybe you refused the sexual advances of a powerful person. Maybe you were a homosexual or a communist. Today, there are more protections against that sort of abuse at the hands of the powerful people, and there is greater power in the court of public opinion. But the effect is the same.
"Canceled" is a term assholes came up with to rebrand "consequences" to make it seem like something that isn't their own fault.
Not sure I agree with this particular take. My recollection is that this usage of cancelled started in progressive internet spaces and was absolutely used to describe consequences for being an asshole.
It's the exact same trajectory woke took -- it was language used by left-leaning people that got co-opted and intentionally diluted by conservatives.
With "asshole" being defined as whatever the general population performing the cancellation deems it to mean, of course. History has not been kind to many of the cancellations of eras past and likely won't be kind to some of the ones going on today.
You got a lot of downvotes for this comment. That’s impressive.
A new record!
Fucking haters.
First one, then the other.
Honestly, I hope he leans into his podcast. IMHO, The Problem’s podcast was better than the show.
The podcast was just as effective at highlighting issues of importance, but it was a bit more fun, and it commented more on the weekly news.
IMHO, the podcast did a better job of scratching my 2000’s Daily Show itch. The TV show was fine, but it felt like an even heavier version of Last Week Tonight. It wasn’t a show I could watch if I had a hard week. It was good, but I often finished it somewhat depressed.
I'll have to check out the podcast. The show was definitely too heavy for me to want to watch most of the time.
HBO should make him an offer. Pull him over to chill with John Oliver again like the good old days.
HBO? Ohh you mean MAX, the hip and cool skateboarding cousin that showed up to HBO's house in season 7 of the "HBO show" with the bodacious sunglasses and the backward hat.
Yeah, I'm sure that guy is jazzy and gnarly enough to support John Stewart.
Radical!
Haha I honestly forgot sometimes that the streaming platform is just MAX now. I work for a cable company and deal with customers who have HBO in their cable packages. It's such a habit to call it HBO still heh... and Lat Week Tonight does still technically air on HBO on TV. It's just the streaming episode goes up within 30 mins of the airing generally.
The Other Problem with John Stewart: Apple is Beholden to China
For real. Maybe PBS can afford him.
You think big business that advertised on pbs would allow that?
Have you ever watched Frontline? It’s basically The Problem, but with no jokes. They have a LOT of hour long pieces shitting on the CCP.
The government wants that which means big business has an angle, probably.
I’ve actually not seen tv in a year, even at friends’ houses. I can usually find interesting content online.
Well, Frontline has been running for many many years. My point is that PBS has shows that are famous for shitting on corrupt entities, even if those corrupt entities decide to donate to PBS.
I’m sure they do; that doesn’t discount this, though.
Holy shit, what a take.
What if the talent wants to glorify pedophiles?
Executives love that.