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Hamas knows that they need to keep this conflict between themselves and Israel. If they piss off any more NATO/Allied countries, the chance that the Gaza invasion will turn into an international coalition increases significantly.
But the second they release all of them, the genocide gets real.
I'm not defending Hamas's actions at all, they are unquestionably "bad actors" at this point, terrorists even. But, that doesn't change the fact that there has not been commensurate retribution from Isreal.
Should they have taken hostages? No.
Are the hostages currently the best bargaining chip Hamas has, to stop the active ethnic cleansing Isreal has been dying to conduct? Yes.
There's nothing us westerners can do or say to truly understand the complexities here, I get that, but for fucks sake can we please stop the killing of women and children? There will be nobody to carry bloodlines at this rate. Undoubtedly the intent.
I feel like Israel is crossing the line at this point. They have a right to retaliate against Hamas, but they've already bombarded half of Gaza, and killed lots of fighters and civilians on top of that. The only reason they're going to invade is that it's a very opportune time for them to finally annex the strip of land they've had their eyes on for a long time. Both armies are being despicable, and I feel for anyone caught up in this who has nothing to do with the drama.
You don't know what you're talking about, Israel doesn't want to annex Gaza, It withdrew from it in 2005.
Here, if you want the full history and the average Israeli POV, I recommend this video: https://youtu.be/XNf40sBcvKk?si=_s_U6po5Jvpb_byU
I really hate all those Hamas apologists that swarm Lemmy.
These guys should go watch war videos from aHR0cHM6Ly90aGV5bmMuY29t (base64 encoded link, very NSFW. Visit with caution.). Sure Israelis do some bad shit. But after you see Hamas soldiers forcing a teenage kids to help them killing yet another civilians, raiding civilian houses and shooting up the place, playing hide-and-seek with vulnerable women and child hiding behind a car, shooting at running away elders, I don't think any reasonable person would ever support Hamas for their action.
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Almost like they wanted Israelis out of their soon to be open air prison. And if you want to turn a blind eye to all the previous land grabs before this one, sure.