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[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 261 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They actually likely did this due to SEO. Google was allegedly in the process of removing tweets from the search index because they weren’t accessible. This happens automatically for most sites.

[–] SuspiciousUser@lemmy.ml 109 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This feels like an extremely basic thing to miss. Something 10 seconds of thought would have fixed.

[–] ipha@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I guarantee you whoever pushed this to prod knew exactly what was going to happen, but the super genius(🤮) in charge is always right and must never be questioned.

[–] PM_STEAM_KEYS@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Does anyone else think a lot about the incredible irony of western freedom-loving democracies being fine and dandy with the fact that nearly 100% of workplaces are top-down dictatorships? Even when you're "given" freedom to act independently, it's always predicated upon your decisions and actions aligning with the wishes of your superiors. The second that isn't the case, you get your marching orders, and you can either comply or fuck off.

It would be one thing if employment were "optional" to some degree, or there were always more jobs than people to do them, but so many people are one missed paycheck or medical emergency away from homelessness, you basically have no choice but to grin and bear it.

[–] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My upper manager always goes on about "empowerment" being part of the new direction for the business, but wouldn't you know, we still get drawn and quartered for the smallest errors.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure they didn’t mispronounce “employee disembowelment”?

[–] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Perhaps - I am notorious for my issues processing verbal communication!

[–] ChrissieWF@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

It would be one thing if employment were “optional” to some degree, or there were always more jobs than people to do them, but so many people are one missed paycheck or medical emergency away from homelessness, you basically have no choice but to grin and bear it.

Well, it is "optional" to some degree. I know plenty of people across Europe who are doing oke enough on basic support. It's not an amazing living but it's not like you are out on the streets. And a medical emergency will not cripple you with debt.
At least far as actually freedom-loving democracies go (as in, free to abort, free to express your identity, free to protest, ...).

[–] flauschibunny@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are solutions to level the playing field like unions or European works councils https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council . but it's still top down in the end. Always seemed strange to me, perhaps it's the way to get things done...

[–] grue@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The real solution isn't those things; it's structuring the businesseses as employee-owned co-ops.

[–] sup@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The supreme leader is always right!

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

All hail plankton

[–] Mereo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

So much this. The leader on top is the one who instills the corporate culture. In this case, the engineers have no say in the matter. They need to do what they're told.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Okay but that would involve whoever is in charge there to think longer than 10 seconds.

[–] Veltoss@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How does Pinterest get around this then? They pollute image searches like crazy, and require you to login to see anything. At least they did, I blocked them from searches so maybe it's different now.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Pinterest is cancer. They act like their content belongs to them when it's all stolen images

[–] reverie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They must have changed their paywall behavior, I just went and was able to see every image I clicked on.

The login popup appears after a few pages but you can just exit out and keep viewing. Google should be able to index the pages without access issues

Maybe that previous aggressive login screen killed their SEO before, I see much less pinterest images than I used to years ago

[–] Pika@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

it 100% did, google removed over half the twitter links on its index due to dead links/login requirements, which if kept like that would basically kill all Twitter traffic since most traffic comes from search engines

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 year ago

Most of these sites serve the information, then put up something to block being able to view it.

[–] gressen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy - detect if you're getting accessed by a search crawler or a human. Serve a full page or just a login request.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So how can a user pretend to be a web crawler?

[–] theMightyMoonWorm@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This browser addon can spoof useragents:https://add0n.com/useragent-switcher.html

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're going to need a special hat.

[–] dangrousperson@vlemmy.net 7 points 1 year ago

Ever heard of https://12ft.io/ ? It allows you to bypass alot of pay walls by basically pretending to be a search engine trying to index a website. For SEO reasons a lot of pay walled sites allow search engines to access the whole article to index. 12ft.io leverages this to show you whole articles behind paywalls. This is something you could also achieve by spoofing the User-Agent. It would probably work for things like Pinterest without an account as well, but that's something I have never tried (since I have no interest in the cancer that is Pinterest).

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if they didn't fire everyone, someone with a spec of sense would have told them this

Same with popups that try to throw you to only a mobile app

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What makes you think that even if someone told Musk that, he would have listened to them?

[–] Zana@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago

He was firing people before who told him something wasn't going to work, so it wouldn't surprise me if everyone who knew this would fail stayed silent in fear for their jobs.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. If it were a good idea he would have already thought of it, right?

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Every single one of these "iNDePENdeNT/liBerTaRian" tech bros think they're the smartest man in the room. Too high on their own farts.

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, most likely, within days they lost half of their links in Google.

How tf they did not see this happening?

[–] CarlosCheddar@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Since Elon I don’t think Twitter has been thinking about the long term effects of their actions. Everyone predicted the blue checkmark fiasco but they went ahead with it anyway so this doesn’t surprise me.

[–] frustbox@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Probably also advertisement revenue. Why would people go on twitter if they can't see anything? Why would advertisers pay money to show ads to no-one?

I think Elon got quite a talking to.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

https://www.rawstory.com/google-twitter/

Yeah they were already doing that, I imagine he took a look at how many inbound visits come from Google and quickly U-turned