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It’s terrible what happened to Israelis and a reaction is understandable. But they’re doing the same and more to equally innocent people on the other side. I’m no expert in that conflict, but no side seems to be in the right here.
One side is oppressed. While the other is the oppressor. So not totally equal or complicated
Very true, everyone also intentionally overlooks that. Nelson Mandela was called a terrorist by the South African apartheid state.
Nelson Mandela didn't murder civilians. That comparison is horrible.
When you decide to become an illegal settler, you stop being a civilian. Pretty simple.
Amnesty International refused to support Mandela because he was involved in violent resistance. History does not magically change when a resistance wins and becomes the government. Most Israeli prime ministers were once (and for many still are) regarded as terrorists too.
People have a right to fight for their freedom. The appropriate response to this (if Israel actually cared) is not to push them down and kill people, but to pull them up by developing their economy and social systems.
Not complicated???
This whole exchange is interesting, but the second half I think this sums this point well.
Ultimately any real world problem has lots of history and different justifications, and I think mask of nuance is being weaponized to pull the conversation out of reality and into a rhetorical space of inaction.
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