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[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im honestly surprised someone using Python professionally appears to not know anything about how pip/venv work.

The points you think you are making here are just very clearly showing that you need to rtfm...

[–] rothaine@beehaw.org -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like rtfms. I really didn't feel like learning 20 different tools for repos my team didn't touch very often.

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't see the hassle.. just pick one (e.g. pip/venv) and learn it in like half a day. It took college student me literally a couple hours to figure out how I could distribute a package to my peers that included compiled C++ code using pypi. The hardest part was figuring out how to cross compile the C++ lib. If you think it's that hard to understand I really don't know what to tell you..

[–] rothaine@beehaw.org -2 points 1 year ago

Sure, for a new project. But when inheriting code I'm not in a position to pick.

The point is that the state of python package managers is a hot fucking mess compared to npm. Claiming that "npm is just as bad" (or worse) honestly seems ridiculous to me.

(And isn't pip/venv the one the requirements.txt one? Completely flat, no way to discern the difference between direct dependencies and sub-dependencies? No hashes? Sucks when it's time for updating? Yeah no thanks, I'd like a proper lock file. Which is probably why there are a dozen other tools.)