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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.stad.social/post/20808

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. I'd never imagine that nice Mr. Musk would do that... Oh? He's been a total ass to workers at his other companies too you say? No, say it isn't so...

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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

my company still has WFH and we're more productive than ever. sometimes we go into the office by choice just to get out of our houses every now and then

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How it should be. Executives aren't dumb. They have seen study after study showing productivity jumped with the pandemic. They're being disingenuous about why they want return to office. Socialization is part of it but that does not require 3-5 days a week.

My conspiracy theory is real estate market is driving it.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a conspiracy at all. It's 100% driven by real estate and city tax incentives for office population and commerce traffic boosts to nearby businesses which the city has incentives to try and enforce

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is without the hard paper trail showing it as fact it's not fact. I believe it is and I you do too, but the problem we have no one digging to confirm and then what next? Workers lose.

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

My buddy works in a bank and they spelled it out loud that the return-to-office was in fact because of real estate, and making sure that the restaurants and business located in the same building had customers. He was admittedly pretty pissed. Makes you realize the futility of it all, all those useless jobs and useless commute. Do society really needs us to work, or are we used as pawns to pay for parking, over-priced coffee and to inflate commercial real estate value. Back to my buddy, he vowed to never ever buy anything in that building again lol.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I agree real estate is part of it, but control and monitoring is another: https://archive.ph/oMbXp#selection-1877.0-2023.82

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

My previous employer (~25 people) ran a test for six weeks and had everyone come in twice a week. The metrics showed no meaningful difference in output and we went full-wfh. Got a smaller office, to receive deliveries, and tasked one person from mgmt each day with being there to receive.

I believe in the socializing aspect of office work. I didn't care for a guy hired during the wfh period until we had a company team-building in-person event. I found out he was really great when we had dinner and beers. But that's about as much in-person as is required. Wfh works.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It’s not about productivity bud.

https://archive.ph/oMbXp#selection-1877.0-2023.82

I think everyone expects their employer to track them to some extent. It is pretty standard practice for employers to monitor and run analysis on things like building badge swipes and the amount of time spent connected when working from home. It has also become very common place for employers to record audio and video at the office. WADU is on a different level. It is an artificial intelligence & machine learning system for workforce human behavior. Starting at the moment you arrive to the building, WADU is tracking you using facial and speech recognition. Most JPMC offices and branches have been outfitted with some of the best HD AV security cameras. Whenever you are at your desk, know that there is a HD camera tracking you the entire time. WADU uses the array of HD cameras at the office to monitor all of your non-verbal body language all throughout the day. The collected information is then fed into the AI/ML system and it is used to update your WADU profile in real time. Every manager gets access to a dashboard that lists all the metrics about their subordinates. The productivity metrics about an employee start getting updated immediately after an employee logs into the system. If the employee is at the office, two bio-metrics are available, attention/focus and stress. The bio-metric feeds are updated from the facial and behavioral tracking. Having a bad day? Stressed about something? WADU has already noticed this and alerted your manager. Can’t focus? Not working at your usual pace? WADU has already noticed this and alerted your manager. Did something you normally don’t do? It’s possible WADU flagged it as suspicious and alerted your manager. WADU is also why they are pushing RTO or “return to office” so hard. Upper management does not care if some employees are more productive when they are working from home. They want everyone back in the office as much as possible so that their WADU profiles are being refined. Enhancing their insight into you is more important to them than better productivity from working from home. A lot of teams are now required to come in two to three days per week. Director level and higher are required to come in four to five days per week. Upper management wants to see everyone at all levels back in the office five days a week. They have invested millions into the WADU system, and they want to get a return on that investment. That only happens whenever people are in the office as much as possible.