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Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 year ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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the front page is now like half articles on this currently, so it's probably time for a megathread because none of us want to keep track of 12 threads on this subject and all the resulting comments. only major subsequent developments (for example, boots on the ground; pronunciations by governments; that sort of stuff) will get their own thread. otherwise please post stuff in here for the time being. any threads not meeting this criteria will be locked and removed. thank you in advance for your cooperation.

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[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do realize that poorer regions have much higher fertility because of much higher child mortality rates and much lower average lifespans, right? Fertility is inversely proportional with wealth and access to healthcare.

This isn't unique to Gaza. It's true in Africa, India, and pre-communist China.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Notice how the sharpest decline in Palestine's demographic pyramid appears between 14 and 34 years old, or about when people realize what's going on and decide to GTFO, and how that fits the constantly increasing emigration, while the increasing population —despite higher child mortality, lower lifespans, and extreme emigration— fits the profile of adapting fertility to and ideological parity with Israel's immigration rates.

Since you mentioned India:

India's demographic pyramid - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India

Notice the low child mortality with an actual increase towards the age of 22. We could discuss the large younger male surplus, though.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd recommend you take a look at the demographic pyramids of countries in Africa. Mortality is steepest in the 14-34 range because that's when most people die.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's nonsense. Feel free to investigate the demographics of the World, Africa, Niger, Ukraine, China, or the US, to get a feel for "infant mortality" or "when most people die".

https://www.populationpyramid.net/

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Have you ever looked at the tool you sent?

Please, do put in Niger and find out (FWIW, your tool is very low granularity and I know there are visualizers that show it at a more fine scale).