I would support violence in the revolution that's inevitable and necessary for the revolution to succeed (in minecraft). But hell no I do not support literal murder as a part of a justice system, I'd hope most of us aren't that bloodthirsty and retributive

Lock Elon and every other ghoul up, their torture can be spending the rest of their days seeing the world change

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still think the greatest revenge is turning them in to good communists, as that would require utterly destroying the person they were and reforming them as something else.

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah you can hate oppressors while still not seeing any human being as inherently evil. I think we're all products of our material conditions, upbringing, education, mental health conditions, etc. People don't just, naturally harm and exploit others because that's who they fundamentally are. I mean, I guess some people probably have imbalances in their brain that effectively make them psychopaths, but I'm also hoping that's eventually better understood and cured under communism

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I think there's always going to be assholes, but I think we can build a society where it's real hard for assholes to hurt anyone. I think alot about how women had it better in the GDR because they weren't financially dependent on men for anything and if their partner was a shit they could just leave without being financially ruined. Like that's a change in material circumstances that makes it so abusers have a harder time abusers and victims have an easier time getting out. It's real concrete. i think about it a lot.

[–] pillow@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it has nothing to do with being "inherently evil" but they made choices that hurt people I care about and I'd like to see them suffer or die for that

I don't understand this sentiment that justice should always be rehabilitative. why should it be? are you angry or aren't you

it's not a communist attitude to plan to grimace your way through an unpleasantly bloody revolution until you can reimpose your lofty ideas of justice on that annoying mob of rabble outside. the party's role during a revolution is to give a voice and direction to popular violence, and afterwards it's to give the violence the imprimatur of legality. we shoot class enemies. because after all the party represents the proletariat, and a socialist revolution presupposes extreme antagonisms between the proletariat and its exploiters. ppl want demons like musk dead for good reasons, and it doesn't really matter if that makes you squeamish

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Some will need to die during a revolution, but I'm not supporting revolution for vengeance, I want change. It's not that it makes me squeamish, or that I'm not angry enough, it's that killing only for retribution is wrong in my opinion.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

99% of cases I'm against the death penalty. But in the clear cut cases where it's obvious someone is an irredeemable Nazi, line them up.

Like Anders Breivik. The relatively comfy imprisonment he's been given is great for most people, but he should have been taken out back, shot, and dropped in a ditch.