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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean prison abolition doesnt mean we dont still have places where we put the most extreme cases of people who cant be rehabilitated and are a danger to society if allowed to exist in it. They just wouldnt function like prisons as we know them.

Then again the USSR did do Gulags so ![shrug-outta-hecks](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/7cc4b291-507e-4aa2-9ba6-35d81eb4a08a.png "emoji shrug-outta-hecks") I'm not going to weep over Elon if he's executed or work camp'd I'm just I'm personally against retributive justice in nearly all cases and would advocate for a justice system that isnt retributive post-revolution.

If it makes you feel any better I'm sure Elon doesnt survive the process of revolution anyway :)

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the question of what to do with people who truly cannot play nice in society is one I'm still learning about re: restorative justice and prison abolition. There are a small number of people who are just irrepairably anti-social and I'm not sure how you'd deal with them. Sending them to a rural area or colony where their movements can be tightly monitored while allowing them some degree of freedom within an assigned area is the best I can come up with.

In Iain Banks The Culture, iirc, people who commit serious crimes are assigned a drone that follows them around for the rest of their lives. They're allowed to go anywhere, do whatever, but if they try to do something anti-social the drone will incapacitate them. That's as close as they have to a prison system.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

In Iain Banks The Culture, iirc, people who commit serious crimes are assigned a drone that follows them around for the rest of their lives. They're allowed to go anywhere, do whatever, but if they try to do something anti-social the drone will incapacitate them. That's as close as they have to a prison system.

![sicko-wistful](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/397348a3-d5bd-4b5b-94d6-2048118e5238.png "emoji sicko-wistful")