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We're in the 21st century, and the vast majority of us still believe in an utterly and obviously fictional creator deity. Plenty of people, even in developed countries with decent educational systems, still believe in ghosts or magic (e.g. voodoo). And I--an atheist and a skeptic--am told I need to respect these patently false beliefs as cultural traditions.

Fuck that. They're bad cultural traditions, undeserving of respect. Child-proofing society for these intellectually stunted people doesn't help them; it is in fact a disservice to them to pretend it's okay to go through life believing these things. We should demand that people contend with reality on a factual basis by the time they reach adulthood (even earlier, if I'm being completely honest). We shouldn't be coddling people who profess beliefs that are demonstrably false, simply because their feelings might get hurt.

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[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like you almost get there until you decide to randomly turn left and fall off a cliff.

I think you have to think of things in terms of likelihood. If the chances of something are near zero they might as well be 0.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might, but it isn't for a fact until it is proven as such.

Mathematics needs to use the imaginary in order to calculate the real. Physics extends into the theoretical until proven impractical.

The supernatural is an imaginary number and a quantum theory. It may not exist as we expect it to, but we can't be sure of its form beyond tangibility.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those two things are known and studied not sure how big science words push forward your idea of supernatural existing

[–] lath@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sigh. We know what we know, but we don't know everything there is to know. So we don't know if what we want to know is hidden in the parts that we don't know. That's why we can't claim what we know is enough to prove what isn't known. We can only assume it as such. And assuming isn't knowing for a fact, we only pretend it is until it is proven otherwise. Or in other words, not finding evidence doesn't mean there isn't any. It just means we're not finding any.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Supernatural being that we don't know some things sure but that is not the general consensus of the term. usually it is ghosts spirits gods etc. And that is just some bullshit.