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Even cities below a population of 100k have their own hospital and dozens of doctor's offices all within a ten minute walking distance from each other.
Sure, if you live in that ten minute walking distance. Sometimes I think progressive movements are their own worst enemies. The nearest urgent care facility to me is 26 mins, by bike, on main roads that are used by cars and trucks. Some spots have a bike lane (which is its own joke and hardly safe). I'd love to see how many actually fall into the "ten minute walk". I don't even have a pharmacy that close, and we've all heard the meme about a Walgreens/CVS at every corner.
Point is, those who are able to use mass transit or are in places where things are conveniently close seem to always chime in with victim blaming of those who aren't like them. It's a subtle version of the "if you don't like it, move".
I would love a world where everything is local and self-sufficient, but all the calls to action never talk about how to get there from here, they only say we should do "something" now. A trip without a roadmap will just get you lost.
Where do you live that sucks so hard?
I live in an ivory tower in Brooklyn where there's like 5 groceries, urgent cares, and pharmacies within a 10 minute sidewalked walk. (and not fancy Brooklyn). Sometimes I forget most everywhere else kind of sucks for transit, but I'm lucky enough that I can choose not to live those places.
Yes, yes, we get it: folks like you and @Miclux@lemmings.world are those special snowflakes who're always the exception to any possible argument an urbanist could make.
But guess what: that very quality means that people like you are such a tiny minority that you don't matter and there's no reason anybody should give a shit what you think (on this topic, anyway). By all means, keep driving! Since you're a rounding error, it won't make a difference anyway!
Now quit your reactionary bitching and let society solve the problems for the vast majority of folks that the solutions do apply to.
All you'd have to do is do away with american zoning regulations and use european urban design principles instead. The market itself is impatiently waiting for that change in policy to happen.
You don't even ever lived in a city with less than 10k population. No doc, no hospital. No train. Just bullshit talks from privileged people.
I've lived in a few towns with under 10,000 inhabitants. All have had doctors, groceries, schools and regular bus services.
A population under 10k is closer to a village than a city. There are towns with a population of 5k that do indeed have their own clinics and even their own train stations as long as they are not located on the side or the top of a mountain, though it is extremely rare for a mountaintop settlement to have a population greater than 3k.
It is honestly baffling to see that people can not fathom that urban sprawl can take shape without suburbanization. You can have houses concentrated into small splotches of land and those are chained together by a singular road and railway. Everything around that is just farmland. That's just how villages look like in Europe.