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The centrists have their narrative. They won't deviate from it. They've been aching for years to have common ground with the Republicans they all want to be.
You can see it in this very thread. People suggesting AOC isn't left enough because she condemned the DSA, in a statement that explicitly called out Israel's unacceptable oppression of Palestinians.
Let's not make this a centrist vs left issue. Everyone should agree that killing innocent people is bad. That means damning the Hamas attack and also damning the Israeli government's constant shelling of Palestine. We need to call out anyone who excuses one or the other, and from what I can tell, there really aren't political lines here.
When centrists stop trying to tar anyone to their left as antisemitic, it'll stop being a centrist versus left issue.
When you say centrists, do you mean random commenters like us, or politicians? Can you provide examples?
Before I proceed, I want it to be known that of fucking course I condemn Hamas.
When I say centrists, I mean centrists. Commenters, pundits and politicians.
Politicians: This guy, for starters. Making a huge show of taking his ball and going home from the DSA, which wasn't involved in the rally in question, but that's not going to stop him. Neither is not being a member if the DSA, which had already kicked him out for supporting India's answer to Trump.
Pundits: There's the "the left is doomed because it REFUSES to condemn MASS MURDER" article that one of this community's centrists posted, there's this article about a grandstanding buffoon, and the article about how the Squad hasn't condemned Hamas loudly enough as examples.
Commenters: This thread. We have one guy starting off with how it's a small fringe of the left that support Hamas, and then goes on to say that this is the natural progression of being to his left because horseshoe theory. There's the guy who had a fucking copypasta of grievances against the left ready to go.
In any event, I find it interesting how no one, centrist or republican, has been expected to denounce Israel's actions at any time over the course of the past few decades, and how unconditional support for Israel's actions is considered a mainstream position.
This guy is a tool, totally agree. Supporting Modi is incompatible with being left wing. I've pretty much written the actual politician off as not serious.
Pundits -- oddly enough, I think AOC has made the best statement on this crisis. She did a fantastic job of not making any of the violence sound justified, while condemning all of it.
Comments are always hard to judge for if they're really fringe or not. I will say I've seen some leftists carry water for Hamas, but they're the tankie type that doesn't really understand leftism to start with. And I think that's who people are thinking of here when someone says "the left"
You also make an excellent point about how support for Israel never needs to be qualified but for Palestine it does.
Sorry if this comment sounds a bit rushed, I didn't want to leave you hanging, but I've only just heard of Israel telling all of Gaza to evacuate in 24 hours, and I can't get it out of my head. It's utterly chilling. I fear that whatever they're about to do will change the conversation's dynamic entirely.