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[โ€“] Mchugho@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The UK. Trains are expensive as shit and terrible. Still better than the US but not viable for me right now

[โ€“] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, well thank neoliberal privatization for that. Thatcher and Reagan fucked their respective countries so damn hard to the benefit of their wealthy friends.

[โ€“] Mchugho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm all for nationalising the rails, still wouldn't catch the train unless they built a station right outside my house that goes straight to work.

[โ€“] optissima@possumpat.io 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh we're talking about developed countries but I understand the confusion.

[โ€“] Mchugho@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, xenophobia is an excellent debate tactic.

[โ€“] optissima@possumpat.io 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I don't hate you, I'm saying that your country has replaced development with neoliberals.

[โ€“] Mchugho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We were literally the first industrial nation. We already have infrastructure, which is why development is so expensive.

We are currently in a political situation with high speed rail. The costs are soaring and it's nothing to do with neoliberalism, it's because to build additional infrastructure in Britain you have to bulldoze through existing shit that is owned by people already.

Nationalising the railways did raise costs by about 1/5 in real terms, but we also have some the safest rails in Europe. They also became more reliable and investment increased 9 fold.

[โ€“] optissima@possumpat.io 1 points 1 year ago

Keyword: were (past tense). Too bad it was all thrown away...

[โ€“] TheDankHold@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Look up the Beecher report (hopefully I got the name right) to find out what happened to your trains. It was politicians getting bought by car manufacturers.