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[-] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

So by that logic, the Turks should give Constantinople back to the Romans?

[-] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

False equivalence, that’s an entirely different historical context. Things can apply to one situation and not another

[-] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Explain. How is it a false equivalent? Romans controlled the city / region for over a thousand years and were later conqured, and their land stolen, to use the vernacular of this thread.

[-] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

You’re oversimplifying in order to compare the two. Wildly different historical contexts with entirely unrelated events. Distilling both down to “area conquered” just so you can make a point is reductive.

Beyond that though, why does it matter honestly? Does the fact that a city was conquered in the 1400s invalidate anything mentioned so far?

[-] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Oversimplifing an empire being overthrown. Seems legit.

[-] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Yes.

If you had made it past the first sentence you’d see how legit it is.

[-] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

People. On a land mass. Wiped out. People. On a land mass. Wiped out.

Yeah, I guess I see your point.

[-] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Damn, still couldn’t make it past the first sentence huh? Really hard question too, I’m not surprised you conveniently ignored it given the aptitude you’ve shown so far. Ain’t my fault that you can’t possibly comprehend two things being somewhat similar yet remaining distinct.

God, I love sealioning.

[-] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh wait, my fault. I was responding to your comment "We are still here"

Wasn't sure which part of my anaolgy you weren't getting. Now we can peacefully argue about that instead.

**EDITED FOR TYPO

[-] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Nice, made it extremely clear this time that you have no interest in actually discussing anything. Really appreciate your honesty, have a good one

[-] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

You too buddy! Would enjoy having rational conversations, even note elsewhere in this thread that I'm taking the time to read American Holocaust, as I told myself "why should I ask someone to do something I'm not willing to do myself?" Granted, being close to 50 years old, it likely won't change my mind, but I reason that if I do read this book, maybe I can better understand other's worldview, and maybe, just maybe we can have civil conversations instead of the stupid fucking bickering that's been going on in a... wait for it... meme thread!

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