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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read your favourite general’s statement and get back to me. It’s simple English.

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks I've already read it. The countermeasures the US took certainly contributed to the lack of data collection.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and what exactly do you think that means?

Also, props to Lemmy for handling this discussion, because the latency is way less than Reddit.

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks That means it wasn't able to collect data in part because of the countermeasures that contributed to preventing it from collecting data. If that was not the case, why wouldn't the BG have just said, "no it wouldn't have mattered because it wasn't trying to collect data."?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they needed to justify the hassle and spending they spent trying to prevent it from collecting? Do you think the US military budget grows on trees?

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks lol I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics you have to jump through to arrive at your worldview. For you to think that in that moment, while being questioned by a reporter about a Chinese balloon and the collection of data that his immediate thought was I need to justify the budget… It’s just astounding.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a press conference. Do you think you can make it to General without press training?

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks You're grasping at straws.... give it up.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What straws? You're the one grasping

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks How old are you, 12? You could have just said, I know you are but what am I?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good to see you don't have an argument

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks Wouldn't matter if I did. You don't see reason.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you don't know what you're talking about?

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks No, because you'd just make up some kind of reason why a Brigadier General would lie or obfuscate the truth instead of following Occam's Razor and understanding that no more assumptions than necessary are reasonable to answer a question. You pulling some bullshit out of your ass about budgetary concerns is a step beyond Occam's razor. That's why I say you don't see reason. You're relying on hypotheticals to justify your position instead of the facts right in front of your face.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The facts are that the Brigadier General you love so much didn't even claim that the balloon is a spy balloon, so...

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks Not directly, he just said that the countermeasures the US took contributed to stopping it from doing so, so...

...this is where you inserted your bullshit about it being because he was trying to justify the budget because of the training he had and that all military leaders in the US are trained to lie and mislead the press because you know... the military budget that literally no one in Congress is concerned about and increases every year regardless if they even ask for it.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He hasn't made any claim that the satellite collected data, either.

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks You poor thing. You lost this debate days ago and just can't seem to let it go. I wish you the best. I really do.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to who? Your downvote history?

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's ok to hallucinate losses bud

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zephyreks 😂 You poor thing. Just can't let it go. Bless your heart.

Here, fill this form out and someone will be with you shortly.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean if you're ok with being objectively wrong I guess it's fine

[–] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago