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Here in South Europe people mostly use Viber. Edit: I was very unaware about situation in Southern Europe as I've learned from this post... Most people in Croatia use Viber!

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[–] railsdev@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

iMessage for other Apple users; for Android people I force them to download Signal because fuck SMS surveillance, Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp and the Telegram train wreck.

[–] highfiveconnoisseur@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should also put your efforts towards getting apple on RCS. Then you wouldn't need to have multiple apps.

[–] railsdev@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I admittedly don’t know much about RCS but I know Apple won’t switch until they’re forced to.

If it allows some proprietary stuff to run on top of it I think Apple would be more inclined to switch (they could put iOS-only/iMessage stuff on top of it). Or not: it seems like they already love their iMessage codebase so probably they’ll just support both when they’re forced to implement RCS.

[–] highfiveconnoisseur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They won't use it until they are forced to 100%. iMessage has become a reason people get iphones. Peer pressure at its finest.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At least in the EU they will be forced to do something, with the DMA going into effect next year.

And if one big market forces them, chances are they'll adopt these changes worldwide to have no fragmentation to worry about.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe Apple successfully demonstrated iMessage does not meet the minimum user threshold to be forced to open that platform to third party applications.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They did? Okay, that's kinda funny, actually

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was something like 10% of the EU population has to use a platform, before it is mandated to be open. I message isn't that popular currently. I agree it is very hilarious

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I guess that checks out. WhatsApp is by far the most popular messaging service in Europe, even some Apple users take it over iMessage between one another

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do you convince them to use Signal? I would like to use your tactics

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I have some fruit booter friends. I peer pressured then into signal the same way other people peer pressuresd them into buying an iPhone.

I think it's pretty poetic.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey Bob, I got these photos I should send you, do you have signal? No, you really should, end to end encryption is a basic human right. Here hand me your phone I'll help you set it up. Hey look at that you got a bunch of people already using signal. All right here are the photos I promised you.

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Alright. This is basically the tactic I used with my dad and it worked so I think I'm doing alright!

[–] railsdev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

It’s only like two people. I don’t know many people with Android phones.