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Was planning to list it for sale somewhere, but no idea what to price it at. Any idea? Is it even worth someone's time fixing it up?

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[–] pbandjealousy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So the story is nice but you are talking about speakers and this has been about how @Over_clox wrongly stated that plugging that guitar into an amp would blow the amp or shock the player. The guitar itself can't shock anyone or destroy any equipment it is plugged into.

If a faulty amp with a bad ground causes a shock through the guitar, it is from the amp and passed through the guitar. So the cause of the problem and the shock is the amp. Not the guitar.

If an amp is dialed to 10 and you plug in a guitar and play a chord and blow the speakers, did the chord you play come through so loud that it blew the speakers? Nope! The amp is driving the speakers past what they can handle. Again not the guitars fault. Same could be said about scratchy pots, switches, etc.

But let's bring this back to the thread, OP was given an Epiphone Les Paul Pro. Someone assumed it was wet and had corrosion. The oxidation on the pickups and parts are normal for gold hardware from Epiphone. Having a 5w practice amp to test would be more than enough. Cause again, the guitar isn't shocking anyone or destroying any amps!

Can amps shock you or break speakers? Yes. But in in your speaker example you didn't get shocked. The amp didn't even break. The speakers did and it was due to human error. Those crackles didn't damage anything until it was at full volume.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't assume it was wet and had corrosion, I know it was. Or a long time in a humid basement. It's called years of humidity, and even possibly long term exposure near salt water and/or a swimming pool with chlorine.

Some of us know what TF we're talking about, others don't...

The person you just responded to knows even more than me, and confirms the potential risks.

[–] CarefreeStyle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't believe Over_clox said anything about the guitar blowing out an amp or being wet, just that it was corroded and would electrocute someone.

If an amp is dialed to 10 and you plug in a guitar and play a chord and blow the speakers, did the chord you play come through so loud that it blew the speakers? Nope! The amp is driving the speakers past what they can handle. Again not the guitars fault. Same could be said about scratchy pots, switches, etc.

Can amps shock you or break speakers? Yes. But in in your speaker example you didn't get shocked. The amp didn't even break. The speakers did and it was due to human error. Those crackles didn't damage anything until it was at full volume.

I never mentioned the speakers getting shocked or that, that is what I thought the issue was.

In my nice story I mentioned that my bass was already plugged into a cab, the cab was cranked up and my bass was at its max volume. My idiot band mate started playing with knobs, to listen to my basses active EQ, while the whole band was playing together. They fucked with my bad volume pots knob, cause they were confused on what that knob did. My basses volume being lowered with that bad pot caused it to crackle very fucking loudly. Blowing 3 speakers in an 8x10 cab. It was very dumb lol.

I mentioned that story again because you claimed before that crackle can't kill a speaker and I wanted to clarify that yes the crackle broke the speakers. This had nothing to deal with electric shock, that's why I didn't mention it. The amp wasn't driving the speakers too hard, it was faulty electronics in the bass that caused the excessive load on the speakers. So yes, it was the guitar and bad pots fault. And yes, also a healthy amount of human error; moving pots while plugged into an already very loud cab.

Hopefully that puts us on the same page.

Just to finish it out. We fixed that cab, it was like $120 per each speaker that needed to be replaced and I took my bass into a shop and got a new pot. No more dumb issues now. We all know better lol. This was awhile ago, I haven't played with that group in about 4 years.

But let's bring this back to the thread, OP was given an Epiphone Les Paul Pro. Someone assumed it was wet and had corrosion. The oxidation on the pickups and parts are normal for gold hardware from Epiphone. Having a 5w practice amp to test would be more than enough. Cause again, the guitar isn't shocking anyone or destroying any amps!

I think you're just repeating information that has already been established and understood.

I'm not taking Over_clox's side in making assumptions about the guitar itself. They made an assumption that the guitar was a shock risk and y'all dragged them hard, through the mud for a pretty reasonable assumption. Reading through the chain, to a degree, the way they reacted might've warranted it. But checking to ensure electronics are in order is best practice.

I think all of us have agreed that the guitar isn't really a shock risk, but I went out of my way earlier to explain how it could be tho. I did that especially cause a couple mentioned that there was no way you could get shocked through (or by) a guitar, that's demonstrably false. I don't want someone to think that they are perfectly immune to electricity when messing with electric guitars and their potentially high voltage equipment.

Not like I'm helping to make this civil at this point but, I mostly made comments here because there is hostilely and hastily made misinformation, half thoughts, and insults being put out into this chain.