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Apparently there's an issue with some instances banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments. Is lemmy.world a safe place to criticize governments?

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[–] lhx@lemmy.world 397 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well let’s find out: Free Ukraine! Fuck Russia. Fuck China!

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

fuck the orcs. fuck the CCCP. Winne the Pooh shouldn’t run a country

[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

fuck the orcs

hate the government not the people am i right?

[–] Trashcan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah. Fuck the people who supports the Russian aggression. Fuck the people who allow Russian soldiers to perform war crimes on a massive scale.

How they are behaving and advancing is like the orcs. Not the fun and widely crazy orks from GW, but the dirty bastard's from Lord of the rings movie

Fuck the orcs

[–] summerbl1nd@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

and then they make movies about how genociding elven children made them sad ala orcish sniper (2014)

[–] ChaosAD@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is even worse in America, they rape, torture and kill and come back home as heros.

"But what about America?!"

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why you calling them orcs then

[–] MercuryUprising@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because they act inhumanely?

The rape and torture of combatants and civilians? The bombing of critical infrastructure to leave a scorched earth on retreat? The indiscriminate targeting of civilian evacuees? The theft of Ukranian children and taking them to Russia to brainwash them at best and put them into the sex trade as one of the worse options? The attempts and calls for genocide against another group of people?

Humans have a social contract that is more or less consistent across the globe. We are social animals endowed with empathy and we don't enjoy seeing others suffering. If you break this social contract, why would you be surprised that people treat you as though you were inhuman? Why are you bothering to turn this plight onto the Russians who are not currently being targeted by any of the above?

Friendly reminder that this method of turning the Russians into the victims of "russophobia" in any thread about Ukraine or Russias policies is russian troll posting 101. You should consider hard who you are currently coming to the defense of.

[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The rape and torture of combatants and civilians?

Who's "they"? "The Russians"? The issue with generalizing and demonizing people is that not all Russians support Putin and not all Russians are genocidal maniacs who want to wipe out Ukraine..

Why are you bothering to turn this plight onto the Russians who are not currently being targeted by any of the above?

Anti-Putinist Russians are very much targeted.. Why is there no place to defend both Ukrainians and the Russian people who don't support Putin? Why do you have to dumb it down to a "Ukrainians vs Russians"?

[–] takeda@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

it's the people that rape, torture, kill, it's the people who destroyed the dam and then shoot to rescuers.

So yeah, fuck the orcs.

[–] ReformOrDDRevolution@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think the CCCP is?

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

lol i had the same question. did they make a typo and mean the CCP or was that Cyrillic for USSR?

[–] totallynotsocsa@beehaw.org 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mao Zedong is objectively one of the worst people in all of human history, and his influence held China back for decades, and continues to harm it to this day.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You know, I agree that he shouldn't have collaborated with America's foreign policy following the sino-soviet split, but I don't think that even puts him as a major candidate in the running.

Edit: He also really should have given the sparrow thing a test run, and there are other criticisms to make, but these are still lesser than the original one. There was bad theory and bad practice in the Cultural Revolution, but overwhelmingly its biggest problem was endangering the revolution that Mao led to establish the PRC in the first place, something for which he deserves credit on account of poverty reduction, drastic increase in life expectancy, land-redistribution, etc. Oh yeah, and the whole "opposing Japanese and British colonialism" thing, since the KMT rolled over for that, but hopefully that goes without saying.

[–] nephs@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately beehaw users won't see your reply, friend. :(

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you for letting me know. I always forget about that because I can see their replies. In any case, I'm more worried about what the people on lemmy.world think, since Beehaw has basically become a purpose-built engine of sectarianism, so the content of those replies would be a foregone conclusion.

I'll try to remember to use my lemmy.ml account in the future for this.

[–] nephs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Only if you really want them to read it. I appreciate it's important to talk to the general audience. :)

[–] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sectarianism toward what ideology, out of curiosity? I couldn't wade through their endless text blobs enough to tell

Ha, fair question! They have plenty of people they dislike, but what I was trying to refer to was their opposition to what they call "tankies" and I call "People who believe that the US lies about its enemies, particularly its big geopolitical rivals." Specifically, while they are conversationally annoying about it, what really bugs me is their campaign to defederate and get others to defederate from spaces they deem "tankie-friendly". I think that really undermines the platform as a whole to pillarize things that way (i.e. closing things off into silos).

"Sectarianism" arguably isn't the right word for that (it has intra-ideology connotations), but I didn't think it was worth splitting hairs over.

[–] Dapado@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like you've left out the part where multiple tens of millions of people died as a result of his policies.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Exterminating the sparrows, that was a pretty big oops.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Winnie the Pooh got him.

[–] _finger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

He found a window and pavement

[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

They have comments from a couple hours ago.