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The first step for the candidates running in next year’s California Senate race is to quietly try to spook newly appointed Sen. Laphonza Butler into not running at all.

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[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the Harris administration

Excuse me, but what the fuck did you just say? The what administration?

There is a better chance of aliens landing on my front lawn, knocking on my door, and telling me I won the publishers clearing house than there is of Kamala Harris winning a presidential election.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You got me, I was trolling, but only a little bit.

As the sitting VP, she is the next one in line in the Democratic Party apparatus. So all the same folks who made sure Hillary got it in 2016 and Biden in 2020 will be pulling all the same tricks in 2028.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Generally speaking, I would agree. However, Kamala Harris in no way has the same level of institutional power that Clinton or Biden brought to the table.

Plus, she is normie poison in a general election, and we already proved that she gets eaten alive in an open primary contest, absolutely no question about that. Even Gavin will come for blood if it means getting a chance at the big chair. She has, and I mean this literally, a 0% chance of ever being elected President of the United States.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We said very similar things about Donald Trump in 2016, and he managed it. It's uphill for Harris, but she will benefit from having all that time watching Biden and maybe learning how to have a personality herself in the process.

And who knows? She might also have the benefit of incumbency herself if Joe wins another term, but that term outlasts his ticker.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We said very similar things about Donald Trump in 2016, and he managed it.

Speak for yourself. I knew he was dangerous from the very beginning. I thought Hillary running would end up exactly the way it did. Everything in that election reinforced my belief that progressive populism focused around labor is the way to win back the country, and unite people.

It's uphill for Harris, but she will benefit from having all that time watching Biden and maybe learning how to have a personality herself in the process.

Unlikely, and I think the fact they have hidden her away from the media due to her detrimental reflection on the administration speaks for itself.

And who knows? She might also have the benefit of incumbency herself if Joe wins another term, but that term outlasts his ticker.

Why would you even want that? I'm tired of the next man up bullshit. It's time for someone to earn their keep instead of this careerist/institutionalist garbage.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a better chance of aliens landing on my front lawn, knocking on my door, and telling me I won the publishers clearing house than there is of Kamala Harris winning a presidential election.

This is true only if you're stuck inside the Twitter bubble and refuse to step outside into real life

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you're confusing me for you because:

  • I'm not a Twitter / X user

  • I actually understand the state of American politics, and accept the reality that pandering to normie/centrist/independent political ideology is what wins elections

  • I care more about moving this country forward than virtue signaling about having a female president

  • I understand how uncharismatic and unpopular Kamala Harris was/is/will continue to be

I actually cannot understand how someone could be so blind to reality. Hillary Clinton already tried to play queen maker on her own behalf while being a historically unpopular candidate because she thought she was OWED her turn in line.

In the process she propped up Donald Trump as a spoiler candidate, rigged the DNC against Bernie Sanders, and fucked this country into the timeline we have been stuck in for the last (almost) decade.

I'm not laughing because I know this brand of identity politics camouflaged as faux progressivism leads to failure. I care about political results in the real world, and if you think I'm the one in the bubble you need to wake up and smell the napalm.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't referring specifically to you but I also can't take you seriously with that absurd "rigged the DNC" nonsense. You sound like trump.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, sick burn 🔥 You really showed me with that zinger ☠️

Just because Donald Trump is an authoritarian asshole doesn't mean that he can't also call a spade a spade when it suits his interests. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

Now for the rest of the people who need a refresher course on the 2016 election, here are some either liberal leaning or non-partisan sources to back up the claim that the Clinton campaign was definitely manipulating the DNC via Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as well as other means as far back as 2015.

Lastly:

I wasn't referring specifically to you

Yes you fucking were, but you clearly lack the courage of your convictions. Which, quite frankly, I find to be in no way surprising.