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When I first found out it was an interesting concept that I was pretty neutral on but the more I engage/lurk with the community the more I enjoy it.

I generally don't post/comment much on Reddit because I tend to be extremely sincere and that's not always well received. Usually I don't get much hate, but what I do get is a lot of non-interaction mixed with downvotes. And it's just really discouraging when I'm just trying to share my thoughts.

But having no downvotes here is so nice because I'm not afraid that I'm going to get silenced into oblivion. Either people will actually engage with me (and maybe disagree, but in a meaningful way), or they'll move on and not randomly share their disdain via downvoting.

It's such a small change but makes a big difference. I bet a lot of people feel the same as me - it's more comfortable to engage here.

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[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How does it work if a user on another instance (that has downvotes enabled) downvotes comments on BeeHaw.org communities? Are they ignored? Can other instances see them?

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least on Jerboa it displays a notification saying that downvotes are disabled.

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well you're a beehaw user. I'm not, and I can actually downvote things here. I'm just not sure if it actually effects anything.

[–] woteorin@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I mean, does it seem to change the vote numbers when you do it? Like, try downvoting my reply and we'll see if it results in us both seeing a 0. :P

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Downvoted as well. Looks like no since other people have also downvoted you and you're still at 1

I'll have to test- maybe other users on my instance can see my downvotes, but they won't federate because BeeHaw rejects them. And therefore no other instance can see them.

Edit: Okay so I've confirmed it.

When downvoting content on an instance that doesn't allow downvotes, you can see only the downvotes that come from other users on your instance. I can see two downvotes now, which happened just after I used a second account to downvote.

[–] woteorin@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am pleased for my role in performing science today. :D

[–] lysy@szmer.info 3 points 1 year ago

Science is not that hard as people think :P Thank you my friend.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry to crash your theory but I think I see your downvotes

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you're just seeing @serfraser@sopuli.xyz's downvote, they're on your same instance and commented below that they also downvoted.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Kinda get the reasoning behind it, however some commonality here would be good over time as Lemmy is developed

[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Downvoted for testing purposes, showing score Of 0 for this comment for me currently

[–] woteorin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing a 1 on my end, so either things are lagging out for different users and I'm about to see a massive chunk hit...

Or it's all localized. :P

[–] ds12@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just chiming in to remark how hilarious and wholesome these downvote comments are! =D

[–] woteorin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I'm still tickled hours later at how eager folks were to figure that out. :D

[–] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Downvoted from my instance and it's a zero. No record of the other downvotes being tested here though. Maybe it's humouring me with a fake downvote but not really transferring across to your post?

[–] woteorin@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

That's what seems to be the case. So, it's looking like it's basically a placebo button for y'all. :P

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] woteorin@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still seeing a 1 here. So, I think the downvote is literally just a placebo for you. :P

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hehe I think that's awesome. :)

[–] woteorin@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

All the satisfaction of downvoting someone for being wrong, but none of the knock-on social effects, eh?

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay so I've confirmed it.

When downvoting content on an instance that doesn't allow downvotes, you can see only the downvotes that come from other users on your instance. I can see two downvotes now, which happened just after I used a second account to downvote.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you’re a beehaw user. I’m not, and I can actually downvote things here. I’m just not sure if it actually effects anything.

it does not, and if it looks like it does then that's all on your end (presumably because whatever you're using can't quite parse the lack of downvotes and gets a bit confused) but doesn't register on ours

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 3 points 1 year ago

As I was able to confirm, looks like anyone else on the same instance can see my downvotes. But not anyone on any other instance, even if they have downvotes too.

[–] plumrat@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I gave you a downvote, not to be mean but to test it. Can others see it?

[–] Limeade@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I am on Beehaw and see a downvote count of zero when I long press on the vote count. I have been curious about how it works when people from other instances interact with Beehaw communities and others that don't allow downvotes. I didn't know if Beehaw still receives that external vote data through federation, tallies it, and hides it or if it was dropped entirely. I guess there's also the possibility that votes are only registered to the local instance where a comment is viewed, but I hadn't considered that.

[–] Kuma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So that is why a lot of down votes are used in this thread! It all makes sense now. I thought it was very weird because this is my first time seeing down votes on lemmy and there were so many everywhere. I got worried for nothing thankfully :D

[–] zkxs@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm on lemmy.sdf.org and I currently see 18 upvotes, 0 downvotes on bdonvr's comment.

[–] kneelknee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, I can see the downvotes on comments and posts. I'm registered to the lemmy.world instance

Edit: But not sure if I'm seeing downvotes from all instances or just mine?