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[–] li10@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are the original panels disputing any of that?

It’s just to give some perspective about how efficient public transport can be when compared with the number of cars required to transport the same number of people.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The subtext is that all the people in the cars (and only one per car, for that matter, which is definitely common, but not universal) are going to the exact same destination from the exact same starting point, at the same time, and that there is a public transit route that travels between the two places at the time everyone wants to travel, because that's the only way the comparison is honest.

As above, I want more public transit in more places, as well as more mixed residential/light commercial so that people don't have to travel as far. But the fact remains that private automobiles and public transit serve two very different purposes, only really overlapping in that they transport people from one place to another. The other details matter, and they're different for each. "Hurr durr cars bad buses good" is so oversimplified as to be not even wrong.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's also missing the panel showing the same number of people on motorcycles, which have all the same multi-destination advantages of cars while being able to fit 2x to 3x more of them and their riders in the same space.

This is even more relevant in "developed" countries where most of the cars only have a single occupant anyway.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That's what was missing - I knew it was something. Yeah, small displacement motorcycles and scooters would go in the direction of helping a lot, at least in parts of the US which don't suffer difficult winters.

I hope the day comes that motorcycles are seen by the law and public opinion as a commuting option and not as a hobby... owning a motorcycle and living in a large metro area is great. I get to park for free instead of paying $15 per day.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The subtext is that all the people in the cars (and only one per car, for that matter, which is definitely common, but not universal) are going to the exact same destination from the exact same starting point, at the same time, and that there is a public transit route that travels between the two places at the time everyone wants to travel, because that's the only way the comparison is honest.

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