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[–] Surreal@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I took a look at history and see nothing but downside of capitalism: environmental crisis, homelessness, wealth inequality

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But the alternative is like russia or something lol. Don’t discount the upsides to capitalism.

[–] lokoluis15@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dang I guess those are the only 2 options. It's death cult capitalism or Russia.

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nir@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So you commented both 'is there proof otherwise' and 'never said that. strawman.' Which is it?

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net -1 points 1 year ago

Is there proof of otherwise? 😂

[–] Zozano@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism is just another step in the long line of governance systems throughout history.

Before now, feudalism, imperialism and monarchism were important steps to building towards the world we live in today.

Capitalism should not be the goal, it has many flaws and is not sustainable. Like it or not, communism is inevitable.

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

communism is inevitable

Or it could be something else who knows

[–] Zozano@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Political theory points towards communism being the best and most likely outcome.

Things like UBI are going to be necessary soon due to AI.

Now strip the 1% of their wealth. What does that sound like?

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t imagine you would want your house owned by anyone other than you. I certainly wouldn’t. The downsides are just bigger than the upsides.

what does that sound like?

Just saying UBI and stealing money from people (or “stripping their wealth” does not make communism? And I dont see how that could ever go well 😂.

[–] Zozano@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I already live in a house I don't own.

The real question is, would I prefer not to pay far out the ass to live here?

What are the downsides to living in affordable government accommodation, as opposed to paying for the house over thirty years, and giving the bank a small fortune in interest?

"UBI and stripping 1% isn't communism"

Sorry, I forgot that redistributing the wealth from the 1% and providing everyone with equal opportunity is not the entire premise of communism. You're right, my bad.

"I don't see how that could ever go over well"

Yes.. That's the idea..

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 0 points 1 year ago
[–] BlackSpasmodic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are too many downsides that are too severe and won't change unless we change the system. I suggest you research the successes of communism. The USSR accomplished a lot and there are other examples like Cuba

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

But the USSR is dead