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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

someone with no social media

Doesn't Lemmy qualify? Well, it's definitely not paid.

[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Depends. Everyone claims they are on social media platforms to stay in touch with family and friends. I know no one on here and am fine with the anonymity. So it's up to you if you count this.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I personally never counted Reddit and am not counting Lemmy as a social media. Both Reddit and Lemmy are just a really huge forum which contains many subforums.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Forums are social media though. Social interaction, community building, content sharing. All is there. Being anonymous does not have much impact on that.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True, but I think the big difference is that social media in the way of Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, etc are tied to your identity IRL and include people that you actually know IRL, therefore are almost an extension of your life, whereas lemmy, reddit, and other iterest-specific forums have to option of decoupling from real life.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Interesting point. However, I think there are many anonymous account on Twitter, for example. Yet it is no different from others.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By that definition Social Media was invented in the 80s with the BBS (so pre-internet, using modems).

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yep. They just did not call it like that back then.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything is everything if you squint enough. You have to look past the meaning of the words and look at the context - social media is usually considered to be FB, Insta, TikTok, Xitter.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ask ChatGPT if Reddit is a social media. It will give you answer “yes”, while noting features that are different from FB. ChatGPT is a good way to judge what is “usually” considered as this or that.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

In global context, maybe. In this thread, not quite. I do not consider ChatGPT to be objective or that it understands context of an external source.

You're missing the point for pedantry. Call it what you want, lemmy is a helluva lot different than Facebook in many ways and we all know this.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is how I see it as well. Though Reddit ws certainly trying to become social medium I feel - which was one of the reasons that helped me leave

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

No, Reddit was always considered social media despite how you or most people see it. Some social media managers have had Reddit in their job description for over ten years. I know because I hired some as early as 2010.

Social media did not start with Facebook like most people assume. Facebook is simply what brought social media into the mainstream. Usenet and forums are a form of social media that many of us old nerds have been using since the 90s.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

forums are a form of social media

I guess I can't really disagree with that

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That’s just like, your opinion, man.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a good destiction would be social network and socical media. Media is about celeberty and making money. Network is about conections

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I completely disagree with your definition of “media.” There is definitely plenty of media that isn’t about celebrity, and there is also non-profit media. Media actually refers to communication to the masses. A social network is simply one form of social media.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then what would be a good way describe this difference

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What difference?

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But you are still socializing with us despite not knowing our real names, so this and Reddit would definitely qualify as social platforms. Twitter was also mostly anonymous for its 16 years prior to Elon, and it has definitely always been considered social media.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Addiction has many forms.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Alto@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

In tbe strict sense, probably. In what most people would call social media, probably not.