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For my phone, I use Graphene OS. What would be the best desktop Linux option to match the level of security and privacy that GOS provides?

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[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What security stuff/mitigations are added on Fedora that are not on Ubuntu?

[–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ubuntu is bad privacy-wise because it has opt-out telemetry. The telemetry is not very invasive though and I wouldn't really call it a privacy risk. There are other reasons to prefer other distros over Ubuntu though

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not making a case for Ubuntu but even Fedora has opt-out telemetry.

[–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

You're right. This only counts users though whereas Ubuntu collects information about your system

[–] RecursiveDescent@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Looks like they do add quite a bit security features. Having SELinux installed and working out of the box being the biggest. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Features

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My question is simple: Which of these security features are not enabled/present in Ubuntu that give Fedora an advantage?

SELinux has a functional equivalent called Apparmor that is also enabled out of the box in most distros.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Selinux is more secure then app armor, but more difficult to use. Ubuntu is also pretty secure, I'm just not as familiar with it. I mentioned it for the privacy but, since it used to have some Amazon bloat crapped bundled and telemetry built in.

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have nothing against your personal preferences. But maybe compare today's Ubuntu vs Fedora. It would be a much more fair comparison.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see zero reason to use Ubuntu over Fedora

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a fantastic internet argument.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

why everything gotta be an argument, sometimes it's just fun to say your opinion like you would talking to someone in person. Wonder what it is about text chat that kind of changes the dynamic

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they meant privacy. Windonical doesn't have a good track record on that front...

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. GP explicitly mentioned security experts that Fedora employs and other security stuff that Fedora apparently has an advantage on over other distros. I wonder if they knew in particular what these advantages are because that got me curious.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read their comment again. The first paragraph is about privacy and Ubuntu is only mentioned at that point. Fedora's default security is only compared to nix and arch.

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I used Ubuntu as an example for argument's sake not as a defence for Ubuntu's privacy/security features.