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[–] Lilith@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There are Lovecraft fans who think he wasn’t racist?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeeeeeeeeeep

There are some who use the ol' "Well, everyone was racist back then" or "He got better about it before he died" canards and they suck too

[–] MeatfuckerDidNothing@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“He got better about it before he died” canards and they suck too

Yeah, this is a prime example of something that is true but used to justify shitty behavior or beliefs.

The modern day equivalent would be if JK Rowling moderated her shitty beliefs and Potter stans decided that made her books unproblematic

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The thing is, people have to actually try and undo some of the damage they did before they can be counted as reformed

Simply being less vociferously racist is the absolute minimum of a start, but it doesn't fix anything

For some though, that's the equivalent of Darth Vader being redeemed by saving Luke and killing the Emperor

[–] cynesthesia@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

i think one major difference between HPL and JKR is that lovecraft was entirely unimportant during his life and died penniless, alone and with basically no platform except for a handful of weirdo that kept the candle burning until somehow he developed a posthumous cult following. jkr on the other hand is fabulously wealthy and influential as a result of that wealth. she still has time to die penniless and alone but I'm not holding my breath. her hatefulness is much more impactful

[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really love the “Well, everyone was racist back then” defense. You're basically saying "If everyone was openly racist today, well I would be too" you're just telling on yourself my dude.

[–] CanYouFeelItMrKrabs@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If someone is not racist it is not because of some quality of their mind or soul, its because of events that occurred during their life. So it makes sense that if someone's life was different they would have different thoughts