The fact of the matter is that owners get to pay his employees less by having customers pay for it instead. You can call it tips, but what is really is - it's the money the employer should have gave them.

And then we can stop the entire ritual of shame and guilt where you tip just to not be judged by everyone around you for being "cheap", even though you paid for the costs of the food you ordered.

[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it's the money that the owner should have given them, but you're not solving the problem by stiffing your waiter. You're just going to make things worse for them.

[–] Shush@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that's the issue - the blame is shifted to the customers. Damned if you do (enforce this terrible system), damned if you don't (make waiters have less money).

The change need to be systematic and from the root. But it will never happen with so many just accepting the system, and so many more defending it so strongly.

[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's really a cultural problem, and there's no easy solution. I certainly don't know how to fix it. I think it would require everyone not tipping or every server everywhere demanding a higher wage.

Honestly, I hate tipping as much as the next guy. If I decide to tip someone I should be able to feel good about it, like I'm giving them a bonus, rather than feeling guilt-tripped or obligated to do it.

Unfortunately, the system is just set up in a way that sucks for both customers and employees.