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I have been on reddit for just about 12 years now. Something I've noticed over time is just how hateful the place has become. A complete outrage machine. Every single sub became filled with it. I've filtered so many subreddits over the last few years, it's insane. I don't know enough about this place to be sure, but I do hope it doesn't become the same type of echo chamber of anger.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It wasn't just Reddit. The entire world has become more hateful and more violently aggressive. I mean, even just wearing the wrong colored hat or having the wrong skin color is enough to get you literally killed anywhere you go. Nowadays it seems like everyone is competing in the Oppression Olympics.

[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

just wearing the wrong colored hat or having the wrong skin color

This is very much NOT unique to modern times.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Blues vs the Greens is from ~500 CE. The Nika riots.

It was over chariot racing teams. We've been up in arms about everything since forever.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Uh you linked one of the times the blues and greens banded together against the emperor.

Also both those groups were funded by politicians, who had a vested interest in using them against their rivals. Hardly ever just sports.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

do you think the world became more hateful alone, or it's your own perception based in social media, or the social media changed the perception of a lot of people, making them hateful ?

honestly, i think the 3 poi ts are correctly, in it's own way, statistic speaking violence was diminishing, it's always was that, especialy with the evolution of society, media just made everything look worse, that maked people act more agreesively because everything was "falling apart" and media helped enhace this sentimentent too, like a snow ball, that's what i think

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

While I do think social media, and regular news media, paid a large part in shaping the aggressiveness of modern society, there is a lot to be said about other aspects as well.

Global economic collapse caused by multitudes of reasons, rapid decline in mental health, a massive extinction event causing all sorts of forever-lasting trauma, and more are continuing to contribute to growing aggression in society at large.

People want to tell you how much they suffer as if it somehow makes them superior or better. But at the end of the day, everyone is suffering, and that's bad. All suffering is bad. I don't go around telling people my family members died because of a past injustice, not because their stories or lives are worthless, but because saying my bad position in life is because of what happened to them is just me blaming my dead family members for my situation. Or blaming some invisible, long-dead boogeyman. Either way, the root of the problem is refusing to accept that its up to me to work to change my situation, not just give up and stop trying.

And this refusal is only amplified in echo chambers often found on social media, and news media. Now more than ever, people are seeking out confirmation bias articles, and refusing to investigate anything that doesn't agree with their opinion because they decided that one biased opinion piece means that entire site is compromised.

This is a complex problem, that quite frankly, if it was ever to be solved, would take thousands of years to unravel and undo.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It seems to me social media is making people more hateful. Anecdotal of course.

[–] takeda@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

just wearing the wrong colored hat or having the wrong skin color

the first thing is something what you can easily change and when wearing it, you're telling everyone who you really are, the second thing is something you are born with. It is silly comparing those two.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was accused of being a Trump supporter and subsequently harrassed because I wore a red baseball cap, which had a baseball team logo on it, home from a baseball game that the team was playing in.

My point in mentioning both is that it such a stupid thing to get upset over (color of clothing), equally as stupid as being upset about someone else's skin color. People that do either are clowns.

[–] takeda@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Ah, sorry then. That's indeed overreaction. I thought it was an actual MAGA hat.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s not that silly. I’m a man. If I decide to wear a dress in public do I deserve to receive hate? Our identities and beliefs shape our actions and what we wear. It’s not so easy to draw a line between the two like that.

[–] takeda@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was not talking about wearing a kind of clothing, but specific clothing showing your political and ideological of someone ways clothes with 1488 I will treat them like the Nazi he is.

Anyway OP said he was just wearing non MAGA red hat. So in that case I agree that was overreaction. In fact would prefer people did that so the association would disappear. I originally thought OP was taking about actual MAGA hat.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My dress communicates specific political and ideological beliefs. If I choose to open carry, that communicates specific beliefs. If I choose to wear a BLM T-shirt, that communicates beliefs.

It sounds like you’re perfectly happy to judge people by what they wear, so OP’s example is clearly apt.

[–] takeda@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, if you wear BLM shirt you are telling everyone you care about racism and discrimination, if you wear Nazi shirt you telling everyone that you believe white race is superior to everyone else.

What's so hard to get? Why I can't assume your views when you are going out of your way making it obvious to everyone what your political stance is?