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[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why did you remove the rest of the post from the screenshot?

If I could wave a magic wand and end all wars and give the entire planet universal healthcare, I would.

All I pointed out was that 1/3 of the estimated $8 trillion total cost of the US wars post-9/11 will be dedicated to veteran healthcare; whereas funding another country's war doesn't come with those costs.

It's not a hot take. It's not a position. You're projecting.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a horrible cost to benefit ratio because spending any amount of money to make an enemy you didn't have beforehand is a negative value proposition.

Like, I could spend $1,000 to cripple my neighbor, but why would I do that? We aren't enemies, but he certainly would be my enemy afterwards!

I would have in a sense paid to make my own position worse off.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you. I'm not justifying being involved at all.

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That magic wand would be not funding proxy wars and arming the neighbours of hostile nations against those nations. Oh wait, it's not a magic wand. It's literally what the United States does and it cost thousands and thousands of lives. Something not even accounted for in the post. Why does America need to cripple Russia?

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why does America need to cripple Russia?

They don't. They seem to be doing a pretty good job of that on their own.

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Russia's economy has stabilized?

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Then why has the US supported attempted or successful coups in neighboring Pakistan, Iran, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Georgia, Ukraine and Syria? Isn't it odd how their invasions and coups happen to be in a circle surrounding Iran and Russia, or in Iran and Russia themselves? Why can't the US not back maidanite fascists? Why can't they keep to themselves?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

If I could wave a magic wand and end all wars and give the entire planet universal healthcare, I would.

Wanting to improve society somewhat ![improve-society](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5714455c-dd96-4a6d-9b6d-0378a0fa03db.png "emoji improve-society") is a goal that is only possible if magic is real. ![very-intelligent](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/611ff2af-7866-4241-91bc-b19c67cc1f4e.png "emoji very-intelligent")

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I most certainly did not, you might have edited it later, but that was your whole comment at the time.

Edit: it was an edit, and also doesn't make your comment any less callous and disgusting.

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[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I edited shortly after originally posting. I've noticed that sometimes edits don't federate correctly.

For anyone who is curious, please follow the link for the citation.

Edit: it was an edit, and also doesn't make your comment any less callous and disgusting.

The whole thing is callous and disgusting. They surely use analyses like the one I pointed out in making the justifications to do what they're doing.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Let's pour oceans of money and material into creating exponentially more needy veterans from an unfathomably more brutal war for the sole purpose of meat grinding a geopolitical rival that we've all but forced into this position, it'll be cheaper because we don't care what happens to those people!

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