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[–] falsem@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As an American, I thought our cultures were relatively similar being both former British colonies. What different cultural interests are you referring to?

[–] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we elected a socialist in the 70s. It ended in a constitutional crisis and his successor was groomed by the CIA. rhymes with certain things no?

we had a publicly owned transport system, telephony, healthcare system, a thriving public service. Then we started getting leaned on.

We had a collectivist culture, government funding for our own media with our own values, then we started getting leaned on.

It goes on.

Even our slang is being replaced, people are pronouncing things your way, the media of the usa is replacing everything and that's intentional government policy.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We had a collectivist culture, government funding for our own media with our own values, then we started getting leaned on.

This is hilarious to point out when you consider Rupert Murdoch has done more to change American politics than probably anyone else in the last 50 years, but you're gonna complain about the US "leaning on" Australia? Sorry but that just screams of shirking responsibility for your own country's problems.

[–] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Everything is feedback cycles. Yes there's homegrown bullshit but it's naive to ignore how that is encouraged by for example the usa exporting neoliberalism and encouraging/bullying other countries to deregulate their own markets (like media ownership that lets people like Murdoch rise) for favourable political treatment.

It's naive to ignore that when usa media, usa products, usa megacorps all arrive somewhere that they wont swing the culture.

The usa has almost certainly interfered in our elections ffs.

Being a country the usa has military interest in is incredible corrosive. It's not just Australia where this has happened.

[–] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gun culture, car culture, sports culture, political culture.. /s, kinda

[–] imsodin@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not Australian or American, but hey it's the internet so why not voice second hand knowledge: I heard Aussies pride themselves on being (relatively) egaliatarian, despising individuals elevating themselves above others. Seems to me about as antithetical to US mentalitity as it goes :)

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

AU and USA share in a foundation belief that they are "classless societies." I think this is probably true of many ex-British colonies since class is such a dominant and suffocating aspect of British culture.

Australia, like the USA has severe inequality, and the rich there like to flaunt their wealth. A disproportionate number of the crypto grifters ended up being Aussie. And while Australia does have a better social welfare state than the US it is both 1) under attack and 2) was put together almost entirely by one socialist prime minister in 1975 who was taken out after only a few months by a coup.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I think this is probably true of many ex-British colonies since class is such a dominant and suffocating aspect of British culture.

Laughs in India

[–] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

A lot of the Aussies you'll chat to on the internet don't realise how recent there was heavy segregation even among people broadly considered white now.

If you look at the last names of powerful people even now you'll find that while they're general all white dudes Irish last names are underrepresented, despite being around as long as English ones. A lot of migrants from Greece/Italy/Poland etc were heavily sidelined too.

Lets not even get into treatment of native peoples and non white migrants cause we'll fucking be here all day.

This country is definitely heavily divided by class, last oecd report I read found 4 generation median time for bottom quartile income to next quartile up. That's bonkers.