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[โ€“] ThePantser@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean people don't want to live in wartorn and just plain shitty countries and flee to more progressive and human right focused countries. Weird. And now those shitty countries just get shittier because those that could leave did and they are usually the healthy/smart people.

[โ€“] tetraodon@feddit.it 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your theory has a Turkey-sized hole

[โ€“] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the immigrants from Syria, Turkey is an improvement.

[โ€“] tetraodon@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

You have a point there

[โ€“] Murais@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Also, Estonia and Lithuania fucking rule.

[โ€“] ThePantser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are just passing through, let's see the numbers for 2023.

[โ€“] Sodis@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

No, they got effectively halted during the time of the immigration deal between Turkey and the EU. Now, that the deal failed, it remains to be seen, if refugees continue to Europe or stay where they are.

[โ€“] Alterforlett@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Norway had a birth number of 1.41 in 2022. We are absolutely dependent on immigration to uphold our society.

We have our flaws as well, but we're not a shitty country