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[–] Microtom@hexbear.net -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Employer pensions don't make sense. If you want to forgo some of your purchasing powers to keep money for your later years, nobody is stopping you. There aren't any advantages in letting your employer do that for you.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't gain any purchasing power when they take away pensions. They just take them away.

[–] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly it's not like they got a raise when pension were taken away. What did go up was CEO pay and shareholder payout.

[–] TC_209@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

And yet everyone with pensions want to keep their pensions and everyone without pensions keep fighting to get them.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

That's a sound functioning theory, but a terrible practical outcome. Too many people are horrible at saving money for themselves and while you can have a "screw them then" outlook on those people, the simple fact is that our society would get really screwed up after a few generations worth of millions of 80 year olds trying to work because they didn't save money and everyone else would bleed money because of it.

Then you look at the predatory business model that's in full swing where boards are literally legally required to try and make shareholders as much money as possible that are designed to try and get people to spend any money they can and it becomes even harder for many people to save. Leaving everyone to just save for themselves will simply not work in this day and age. Too many people wouldn't manage it. It would ultimately mean the government would end up dealing with the millions on penniless people, which means tax dollars would be spent on them, which means YOUD be paying for their care.