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This thread is frustrating. Everyone seems more interested in nitpicking the specifics of what OP is saying and are ignoring that a forum sends you your password (not an automatically generated one) in an email on registration.

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[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 year ago

They have said it is being hashed for storage: https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=669268#Post669268

I can’t fault the OP though, if I received such an email I would assume it is stored in plain text and be similarly upset.

[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Reversible hashed password storage isn't meaningfully better than clear text.

  • The key to reverse the hash is typically (necessarily) stored in the same infrastructure as the password. Bad actors with access to one have access to the combination.
  • Even if an attacker fails to exfiltrate the key to the reversible hash, it's typically only a matter of days at the most before they can reverse engineer it, and produce plain text copies of every password they obtained the hash of.

A reversible hash provides a paper thin layer of protection against accidental disclosure. A one way hash is widely considered the bare minimum for password storage.

Anyone claiming a password has been protected, and then being able to produce the original password, is justly subject to ridicule in security communities.

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The one they were sending at registration was prior to hashing. It would not be reversible afterwards.

[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's technically less terrible, then.

Good for them. /s

Edited to add the /s for clarity, because the NIST recommended remediation in 2023 for emailing a password is "burn everything down and pretend the organization never existed". /s

Again, adding that /s since that's not actually what NIST says to do, and I am, at best, paraphrasing.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago

I wasn’t trying to claim what was happening here, simply that one (extremely) bad practice increases the chance of another.

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