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Are attention spans actually shortening? (feddit.uk)

submitted 1 year ago by OmegaMouse@feddit.uk to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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So a view I see a lot nowadays is that attention spans are getting shorter, especially when it comes to younger generations. And the growing success of short form content on Tiktok, Youtube and Twitter for example seems to support this claim. I have a friend in their early 20s who regularly checks their phone (sometimes scrolling Tiktok content) as we're watching a film. And an older colleague recently was pleased to see me reading a book, because he felt that anyone my age and younger was less likely to want to invest the time in reading.

But is this actually true on the whole? Does social media like Tiktok really mould our interests and alter our attention? In some respects I can see how it could change our expectations. If we've come to expect a webpage to load in seconds, it can be frustrating when we have to wait minutes. But to someone that was raised with dial-up, perhaps that wouldn't be as much of an issue. In the same way, if a piece of media doesn't capture someone in the first few minutes they may be more inclined to lose focus because they're so used to quick dopamine hits from short form content. Alternatively, maybe this whole argument is just a 'kids these days' fallacy. Obviously there are plenty of young adults that buck this trend.

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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I noticed that I take a lot more care and attention on my posting on lemmy in general. The conversation can be much richer than it is on Reddit and I feel that it's worth my time to sometimes write several paragraphs, cite sources and really dig into a topic. Be it star trek lore, political theory, or the weather. It's nice to have a space where thoughts can be challenged and discussed without it devolving into a shit slinging competition. I also don't find myself on lemmy much when I'm not at work which has led to me being more present in my home life I've been able to get more done around the house. I have terrible ADHD and it came as a surprise how much easier it's been, it's still difficult but it's better. I find I've just slowed down a bit and been more attentive overall. I won't attribute that wholesale to reddit as I've been making other lifestyle changes lately but being online too much was certainly an issue and it's made those other changes easier by virtue of having more time.

I'm on a big political theory bend right now as far as reading goes. I've read the conquest of bread, mutual aid, the state and revolution, bullshit jobs, some of capital (it's boring as fuck lol), the dawn of everything, some short writings from Malatesta, and a few others I'm blanking on right now. I'm also working my way through the Lord of the rings as well. I plan on revisiting some old favorites down the line too.

As for recommendations, I can't praise The Dawn of Everything enough. I lumped it in with politics earlier but it's really not (in the traditional sense). It's co-written by anthropologist David Graeber and archaeologist David Wengrow. In the book they attempt to go through the historical, anthropological, and archeological record to construct a grand narrative for the development of human society. They offer some very compelling evidence against the old myths of the noble savage or primitive barbarian that have been the dominant theories of human social development since the late enlightenment. It's truly eye-opening and fascinating. Also, if you haven't read the Lord of the Rings before, do yourself a favor and give it a go, you won't regret it.

There are a few book communities here, but I'm blanking on which instances they're on at the moment. I'll have to go through my subscribed pages and come back to link them

[–] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I noticed that I take a lot more care and attention on my posting on lemmy in general. The conversation can be much richer than it is on Reddit and I feel that it’s worth my time

Yep, same. I’ve also spent A LOT of time in this quarter just creating content and answering comments. But, none of it felt like wasted energy and I don’t regret anything. I was able to strengthen my created community, help others in topics I’m interested in, and so on…

I have terrible ADHD

Again, same. Medication and meditation helped a lot making me more mentally balanced and being able to read a book or doing hard mental work.

Also, when I let my thoughts drift, I think about all those great interactions I’ve had this day and not how shitty everything is in general, like it has been on Reddit. That really took a strain on my wellbeing, and I reduced my usage of it long before taking the plunge and switching to Lemmy.

Book recommendations

I “really” started reading not a long time ago. That was just something I was never able to due to said untreated ADHD, but now, I can, AND I LOVE IT!

I just started reading the Witcher books after playing through The Witcher 3. Even though I played it for 400 hours “without break”, it really hurt when it ended, and I wanted more from this immersive, disgusting, magic, beautifully crafted world. Those books (I’m into 2/6 now) are way better than I could have ever imagined and really help me break out of all this RL shit. Those books also demonstrate again how capitalism, Hollywood and Netflix transform a piece of european culture (which TW is based on) and extremely interesting characters into something as shallow and americanized as the series on Netflix. Different topic…

On the more “nerdy” side, I’m currently reading “Running Mycelium” from Paul Stamets right now. It’s about how mushrooms could save the world, for example by filtering out toxic waste or plastic from the environment, giving us a sustainable building solution, new medicinal horizons (e.g. antibiotics), and so on.

Yeah, otherwise, I have a lot of books in my reading list and already downloaded.

I will definately take a look into your recommendation, that sounds like a possibility for me to be fun at the next party 🙃 Text

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I dropped reading for most of my adult life, I had a hard time with it as a child too before I got diagnosed but my symptoms were a lot less severe then too so it was still easier than it currently is. Im poor and don't have health insurance so I'm unmedicated which IS NOT fun lol. But I'm making it (barely) work.

The witcher is a series I've wanted to get into for a while, glad to hear the books are as great as they sound! The games are fantastic so I'm sure the source material only gets better. Mycology is fascinating topic as well. I'm an amateur grower and forager when I can bother to get off my ass. It's a pretty dope subject and an even doper hobby if you're in the market for one.

If you want a fun YouTube recommendation, Crime pays but botany doesn't is a good channel. He's an Italian from Chicago with a lot of passion for ecology and reducing mans influence on nature. Most of his videos are just him walking around the woods and pointing out cool plants lol. But he has this guy on his videos on a semi-regular basis, Adam Rockefeller. His specialty is on psylocibin mushrooms of all varieties and there's some really enlightenimg info on them in those videos. From field identification and testing to genomic sequencing and plenty of other stuff. The guys a savant. He doesn't seem to have a large independent presence online but it's always a pleasant surprise when he shows up. I have a suspicion you would enjoy it