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“Florida’s new black history curriculum says, ‘Slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,’” she said to Gov. Ron DeSantis. “You have said slaves developed skills in spite of slavery, not because of it. But many are still hurt. For the descendants of slaves, this is personal. What is your message to them?”

She later asked former vice president Mike Pence: “The Department of Homeland Security warns that violence against LGBTQ+ people is on the rise and intensifying. According to a recent study, members of that community are nine times more likely to be victims of violent hate crimes. As president, how would you protect this community from violent attacks and discrimination?”

But the unsparing and frank manner in which she engaged with the Republican field prompted a wave of ferocious backlash from right-wing media figures watching back at home and one of Fox News’ own prime time hosts.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"woke CRT is destroying America!"

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[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"Hitler did some good things."

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Nine... Eleven.

[–] Physnrd@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Copied from https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/second-republican-presidential-primary-debate-transcript

CALDERON: Governor DeSantis, I have a question for you. Governor DeSantis, I have a question for you. This new black history curriculum says quote, “slaves develop skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit.”

You have said slaves develop skills in spite of slavery not because of it. But many are still hurt. For descendants of slaves, this is personal. What is your message to them?

DESANTIS: So first of all, that’s a hoax that was perpetrated by Kamala Harris. We are not going to be doing that. Second of all, that was written by descendants of slaves. These are great black history scholars. So we need to stop playing these games.

Here’s the deal. Our country’s education system is in decline because it’s focused on indoctrination, denying parent rights. Florida represents the revival of American education. We’re ranked number one in the nation in education by US News and World Report.

CALDERON: Vice President Pence, the Department of Homeland Security warns that violence against LGBTQ plus people is on the rise and intensifying, according to a recent study, members of that community are nine times more likely to be victims of violent hate crimes. As President, how would you protect this community from violent attacks and discrimination?

PENCE: Well, as President of the United States, I’ll — I’ll stand up for the safety and the civil liberties of every American, from every background. And I want the American people to know that. But I want to answer the question as well as, Dana, that you just asked Burgum. Because my way of full disclosure, Chris, you mentioned the President’s situation. I — my wife isn’t a member of the Teachers Union, but I got to admit I — I’ve been sleeping with a teacher for 38 years and a full disclosure. Look, education is a state and local function.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago

DESANTIS: So first of all, that’s a hoax that was perpetrated by Kamala Harris.

Lol what a tool

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So DeSantis lied and Pence tried to jump on that then answer her question.

And what assholes told him Florida is number 1 in education?

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That link says #14 in K-12 education, which is what the question was about. So this is a perfect example of cherry picking some data (#1 in higher education) that sounds like it proves a point, but not really.

[–] DigiDemiFiend@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Additionally, if you click on that #1 Higher Education, it explains that it's based on the share of citizens who have degrees and student loan debt, which could all have little to do with the colleges in Florida. It also takes graduation rates of Florida colleges into account, which is an important metric, but without some context showing the quality of the programs, it doesn't mean much.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

So essentially all that metric shows is that people with money who can afford college tend to retire where we all already consider the retirement capital of the county. Neat.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was just posting what he probably referenced. Its not very nuanced, his voter base isnt going to look too deeply into it...

Shit even you guys wouldnt have looked into it had I not pointed it out.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We’re ranked number one in the nation in education by US News and World Report.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_%26_World_Report_Best_Colleges_Ranking#2023%E2%80%9324_rankings

LoL not even close

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

lol “the black chick did it”

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Weird that he says he's been sleeping with a teacher for so long, I wonder who he's referring to since he and Mother (his pet name for his wife) sleep in separate bedrooms by his own admission.

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 29 points 1 year ago

A metric shit ton of question dodging occured.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

They don't actually say in the article.... I Guess they can take the news out of CNN