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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And honestly who even cares? Russia has Nazis? Great, shoot them, too.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia does have Nazis, but they’re all fighting for Ukraine.

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just not true. Russia is positively filled to the brim with fascists. The third largest party in the Duma contains every flavor of fascist under the sun, and the largest gets fascist as hell when it suits them. Plus there's fucking buckets of outright nazis in Russia on the political periphery same as the US.

While the Russian state doesn't lionoze the actual nazi party the way the Ukranian state does, pretending that nazis are a complete non factor in Russia in simply burying your head in the sand to an almost but not quite lib degree.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure what you’re talking about because the Duma consists of United Russia, the communists, and a few other parties that are tiny and irrelevant.

Can you explain how it will benefit the world’s workers if NATO wins this war? Because I can easily explain how the world’s workers will benefit from a NATO defeat.

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If we're calling the Liberal Democrats irrelevant, we have to assign that label to the Communists too. In which case we have to concede that the Russian state is a one party state with a fascist aligned party in charge. So congrats dude, we've aligned ourselves with fascists to take down fascists.

The fact that Putins victory is a superior outcome to Bidens victory, doesn't make him not a piece of shit fascist. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is also a prick.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s why it’s called critical support 😉

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Critical support does not require us to lie about what Russia is.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who was lying? The choice is obvious—a country that destroys Nazis versus a country run by Nazis. I also don’t think Americans have any right to criticize any other country to begin with.

As a not American then I can feel absolutely free to call Putin a fucking fascist then

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only ones lying are the people who call every capitalist state they don’t like “fascists” and effectively do double-genocide soft denialism by flattening the whole world into fascists

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah man, calling the guy who made it illegal to be LGBTQ a fascist is the same as being a nazi 🙄 How about you fuck off back to whatever place spawned you

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You first lib. Is Palestine fascist? How about Syria? How about Iran? Reactionary social views don’t necessarily mean fascism, and often social reactionaries deserve critical support for resisting imperialists (who are the actual fascists).

You are sitting here equivocating actual seig heiling Nazis with the descendants of their victims defending themselves. FUCK YOU

Putin is an anti communists arch reactionary backed by the interests of capital to tamp down popular sentiment and channel it into a reactionary project. He is a fucking fascist and trying to pretend that he's not is pathetic and weak. Especially when you then hde behind the idea that this is what critical support is. Fuck off.

You are sitting here pretending that socialist dissidents and minorities being marginalised and murdered is cool and also good but isn't actually happening too.