I've definitely come around from 'war is bad, no one should be at war' to 'the elimination of reactionary forces, specifically those who adorn nazi regalia, is paramount to the continuation of humanity'. Is Russia perfect, no; is Russia killing Nazis at a faster rate than the rest of the world, absolutely yes. Do I want every Nazi in the world dead yesterday, yes; who is going to deliver that goal, Russia; who isn't going to deliver that goal, US and NATO.

[–] tickthetunic@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand where you are coming from but I have a hard time squaring the circle of "US involvement in the middle east only caused further explosion of extremism" and then acting as if Russia invading Ukraine won't have the same effect with what they claim to be fighting.

[–] FactuallyUnscrupulou@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US involvement in the Middle East has led to an increase in extremism. The US military withdrew from Afghanistan and Western media along with the useful idiots were upset we weren't continuing the war, those same folks are now thrilled we are supplying Ukraine. The extremism is coming from inside the house.

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

This and extremism in the Middle East (whatever we wanna define that as) is less immediate or tangibly a threat to Americans as fascism in Ukraine is to Russians. That and the US refused to engage with the governments of these countries and instead blocked diplomacy, whereas Russia did attempt the legal path repeatedly but Minsk kept being violated

[–] tickthetunic@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Again I see what you are saying, I just don't agree that what Russia is doing actually delivers the goal you are after, based on our own continual examples that it doesn't work that way.