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I mean, certainly one could pick out a few test cases to indicate a democracy. Do the citizens have the apparent right to...
The US has a lot of headwinds on this short list but at least I am aware of the atrocities it has committed, can ask questions without being disappeared, and can theoretically run for office without being shot. Our democracy is ugly as hell, but at least I can see it. I question all governments that claim some higher ground.
How many peaceful protesters got bagged in unmarked vans in 2020?
Also the Chicago PD have black sites where they would disappear people without cause and their families would not be notified.
Yeah it would really suck to be locked up for years without a trial.
Yeah that's definitely not a thing in the US I'm not even sure how you could possibly think that it is unless you got kicked in the head by a donkey.
Okay...
Who determines this qualification?
It's really easy for the press to be free when the same multinational corporations that the US works on behalf of also own the "free" press.
It's really interesting that you didn't mention the one thing that I think a democracy actually has to have: representation/reflection of the will of the citizenry.
"Heh, don't you know, hexchanner, that not all cops are bad and a few bad apples don't condemn our great system of burgerland freedom?"
Yes, in China, you can do these things.
Once
why do you think you know what youre talking about? what have you read or watched that makes you so certain of your opinions on China? can you read Chinese? have you ever spoken to someone from China?
Death to America
They watched and read the Western MSM, China Uncensored and laowhy86 and concluded that China is very very bad and evil.
Endless anti-communist, racist anti-Chinese propaganda infests the mind with brainworms.
I'm surprised they haven't called us all wumao 50 cent army bots yet. I always get that one.
someone better tell a bunch of people on weibo that they've all been shot
they don't seem to have noticed
China has a democracy; America doesn't
Now.
Better tell that to the critics on weibo lol
With regards to the US and UK.
Ask people like Julian Assange or Dr David Kelly whether or not you can criticize the government. You can't ask Dr Kelly because he was murdered, and you will have trouble with Assange as he's been illegally imprisoned for 4 years.
Again, ask Assange if he is getting due process, if you can get into Belmarsh prison.
Minority groups don't get fair treatment.
The qualification for running for office is to be rich and connected. If you are not rich and connected and it looks like you might actually win, your name will be dragged through the mud by the "free" press.
The press is bought and paid for and dances to the tune of capital.
Wow, such insight. I'm glad we have such an enlightened person in our midst to tell us that what if, like, all governments are bad, man?
(and by that I mean China bad)
Then you agree with Hua Chunying because she is literally doing the same thing.
I think e.g. Daphne Caruana Galizia would have some interjections here
free press tends to mean "press for hire by people with money" not "broadly representative press"
This is absolutely not the case in the US. Do you have any idea how common it is to just take plea deals because public lawyers are too overworked to handle their caseload?
You can criticize all you want but your criticism will be buried and ignored. You can run for office but you won't stand a chance unless you bend the knee to a major party or be rat fucked by them.
The Western demcratic system has devolved to a point where it's mostly for show. Parties only differ from each other on relatively minor policies and in most places you are simply voting for neoliberalism or more neoliberalism. Studies have shown that public opinion has pretty negligible effect on the chance of a law passing. You can see this I'm how a majority of Americans support universal healthcare but that reform never passes.
You've been taught that the choice of red coke or blue coke is the ultimate power, never questioning why you must always drink coke and nothing else.
How much movement has there been on key issues like healthcare, education, housing, affordability, climate change, and homelessness? What about LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, police brutality, and the racial prison gap?
The goal of democracy is for the government to follow the will of the people. In fact, the goal of all modern governments is to follow the will of the people. Has that happened in America?