Planning ahead and building cities for the purposes of already having infrastructure for an expanding population (1.4 billion already), and also making those new cities attractive enough to cause sufficient migration that older cities (like Beijing) can be re-developed without having to uproot massive amounts of people makes perfect sense.

China is unrecognizable now from 10 years ago, let alone 70 years ago. The speed of development is incredibly fast over there because the nation operates in the interests of the working class. Quality of life is reliably, consistently, and tangibly always improving in China. This compulsive, nonsensical urge to somehow, someway paint China as inferior to white Western countries is incredibly infantile with racist undertones, since the idea here is that only white countries (or their dogs like South Korea and Japan, two of the most miserable countries in East Asia) can ever get anything right despite having nothing to show for it.

Here, go have a look for yourself at what a successful nation actually looks like: Living in China YouTube Channel

The only thing China has to learn from Western countries is exactly what not to do, and how to avoid becoming a failed state, which they've all already arrived at or are in the process of becoming.

[–] senoro@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks for your comment, I do appreciate it, and I will check out that youtube channel. But are you telling me that there are failed states in the west? And if so could you name one?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But are you telling me that there are failed states in the west? And if so could you name one?

You're viewing the situation as a case of "the west" and "everyone else", as if the countries within the west do not have a hand in the fact that everywhere else is unstable, underdeveloped or failing in some way.

You should adjust your perspective instead to "the exploiters" and "the exploited". The imperial core of the empire and the exploited periphery from which the imperial core extracts wealth. When you reassess your perspective and understand that the failure outside of the imperial garden countries is a result of these countries massively extracting wealth and resources to import it into the imperial core then you will be unable to continue to see it as "good states" and "failed states" but instead as one set of exploiters being responsible for the instability and under-development of the latter. The states you view as good are responsible for the states you view as failing.

If you liberate those "failed states" from the wealth extraction and mineral exploitation of the states you view as good their fragility will soon make itself clear. And all these other countries you view as bad will stabilise when they are actually using their vast mineral wealth and riches for their country instead of for the imperial core.

You should read Imperialism in the 21st Century.

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for your comment, I do appreciate it, and I will check out that youtube channel.

Thank you for being willing to engage.

But are you telling me that there are failed states in the west? And if so could you name one?

I'm going to re-post what I said in response to another person on another thread.

The US has ornamental "rights" and "freedoms" that serve no tangible benefit to the material and social conditions of the working class and are virtues in name only.

The US has had liberal democracy for quite a while now, and guess what? It's a massive failure. The US is a failed state. Widespread illiteracy, decaying social and material conditions, widespread immiseration and loss of dignity, skyrocketing inflation, plummeting purchasing power for the working class, odious student and medical debt, widespread corruption, endless forever wars against the working class of other countries, environmental breakdown with collapsing ecosystems due to deliberately perpetuated fossil fuel dependence, collapsing bridges and other crumbling infrastructure, subway systems that are de-facto sewers like in New York City, tent cities as far as the eye can see, home ownership nigh-impossible for the vast majority, over 50% of millennials and even higher percentage of young people having to live with their parents because rents are beyond absurd, increasingly more young people unable to afford their own transportation, people are even being priced out of trailer parks... But you can talk crap about your politicians and.. yeah.. you can do things that don't actually challenge or tangibly displace the rule of the capitalist class..

As for Europe, they're undergoing de-industrialization right now because the US convinced them to sanction Russian energy, effectively cutting themselves off from the life force of industrial development. The US made doubly sure of this by blowing up the Nordstream pipelines so they couldn't go back to it even if they wanted to.

Now, Europe is buying Russian energy from India at rates higher than they were originally paying with status quo, making it considerably more expensive to operate in Europe. Thus, plants are closing down and moving to places like the US and China as the former cannibalizes its vassals in one last attempt to save its dying empire.

As for Japan and South Korea, two of the most miserable countries in East Asia, the living conditions are abysmal. Apartments the size of broom closets cost a significant amount of one's income. Upward mobility is very difficult, people are constantly worked to death, suicide rates are always outrageously high, even the birth rate seems to be constantly in decline (also among the lowest on Earth) because it's just impossible to have room for anything besides work and drinking yourself to death.

These are not signs of healthy, successful, well functioning states. A nation will only prosper when its young people thrive, and the complete opposite trend is and has been underway for a long time in the West. These nations are imploding, undergoing full-spectrum decay, while China is undergoing massive projects of national and global development and full-spectrum rejuvenation.

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Doctors without borders routinely does missions in America because it is so underdeveloped in places. We routinely watch infrastructe fail and kill lots of people. There is no money for Healthcare or education but the corrupt police that are proven to abuse their powers amd exploit people are given infinite budgets. Is there anyway you could say thr US hasn't failed as a state?