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Shearing is pretty low impact on a sheep's life. Idk why whoever wrote this felt the need to dramatize it. Yah, they get nicked, but I cut my self shaving every day too.
I’ve seen the video footage. I wish they were just “nicks” that the animal experienced, although I wouldn’t want that for them either. They were bloodied and beaten. The kind of thing that an adult human would be hospitalised for.
There are good farms and bad, farmers who love their sheep, and farmers who take their resentment of their lot in life out on their animals, knowingly or unknowingly. As animal welfare activists we enter dangerous territory when we speak in absolutes. Dismissing a bad farm because its offset by a good one does nothing to help the sheep at the good one. Painting all farms with the same brush as the bad one makes people less willing to hear out what we have to say.
As far as making sure you get cruelty free animal fleece products, all I can really say, given there aren't any certifications I know anyrhing about (I'm sure they exist, I just don't know about them), I'd say bear in mind that good products should cost extra. People vehemently criticize fairphone and teracube for being expensive AND low performance but the fact is that's what happens when you try to cut slave labor out of your manufacturing pipeline.
This same concept will go for socks. Most of the BIFL sock options are ~$25. You can get way cheaper socks on alibaba. But to reduce the costs beyond those $25 you have to reduce quality and material cost. How do you reduce material cost of wool, while still being 100% specific kind of wool? Feed the sheep less well, and be less careful during shearing so you can shear more of them in less time.
I'm probably going to try later tonight to find some wool certifications and B Corps making socks
Counter intuitive as it may seem the best shearers, as in fastest, are some of the least likely to injure a sheep.
Inexperienced shearers and slow shearers are more likely to have the sheep struggle and result in a cut.
Farmers don’t ever want their sheep getting cuts because they lead to infection, infections mean dead sheep. Dead sheep are lost money.
There are good slavers and bad slavers, let's not speak in absolutes. As human welfare activists we enter dangerous territory when we speak in absolutes. 🥺