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A Cuban teenager unwittingly found himself on the front lines of the war in Ukraine after accepting a job offer he received on WhatsApp to do "construction work" for the Russian military, according to Time magazine.

Alex Vegas Díaz, 19, and a friend were taken to a military base, outfitted with weapons, and then sent to fight, according to Time, which reviewed social media footage posted by Vegas Díaz.

In one of the videos, dated August 31, which went viral, Vegas Díaz can be seen in a Russian hospital recovering from an unspecified illness. According to Time, he said he was due to be sent back to the front upon recovery.

From his hospital bed, he pleaded to "help get us out of here," adding: "What is happening in Ukraine is ugly—to see people with their heads open before you, to see how people are killed, feel the bombs falling next to you."

According to Time, Vegas Díaz said in one video: "There are dead Cubans, there are missing Cubans, and this is not going to end until the war is over."

He added: "We know that Cuba is aware and our advice to Cubans is not to come here. This is the craziest thing. Crazy. Don't do it."

Time reported that Vegas Díaz became part of a large operation that openly recruited hundreds of Cubans to join the Russian army to fight in Ukraine.

According to the magazine, the recruitment effort involved adverts for job contracts with the Ministry of Defence in Russia that began to appear on Cuban Facebook groups in June.

It said that recruits were offered 204,000 rubles, or $2,120 US dollars, to sign up.

Average monthly salaries in Cuba are dramatically lower, making it an enticing prospect.

Time reviewed the job contracts, which it said required a one-year commitment, but came with an enlistment fee and a payout for the families of recruits if they are killed in action.

The exact number of Cubans recruited through this initiative remains uncertain, with estimates provided to Time ranging from hundreds to more than a thousand

Though Cuba's foreign ministry described the recruitment effort as a "human trafficking network," four Cuba experts and former US officials expressed skepticism to Time

They said that the Cuban government, a long-standing ally of Russia, may be using such language to maintain the appearance of a neutral stance in the Ukraine conflict, Time reported.

Regardless of the nature or provenance of the recruitment drive, there is concern in the US that recruits such as Vegas Díaz may have been deceived into accepting job offers.

The State Department said in a statement provided to Time that "we are deeply concerned that young Cubans may have been deceived and recruited to fight for Russia in its brutal full-scale invasion of Ukraine, and we continue to monitor this situation closely."

The US State Department did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have you even been following the war at all?! ive seen 4k videos of Russia bombing Ukrainian Civilians for months now, not Civilian Infrastructure,just straight up targeting Civilians. Im not trying to discount the hundreds of thousands of Civilians the United States has killed in the middle east, but if the war in Ukraine continues for as long as the war in Afghanistan did, it will easily be in the millions due to famine and starvation, because countless countries are already on the cusp of Famine from the war in Ukrainian wheat from reaching the middle east.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Millions. Iraq alone is estimated at around 1,000,000. Never mind how many people the weapons we ended up giving to ISIS under the program Operation Timber Sycamore killed. Or the amount of people that died in Yemen due to our support of a blockade, or the children in Iraq that starved to death due to our sanctions after the first war.

Stop downplaying the horror of what the US did in the middle east. You don't need to do that to criticize Russia.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if it was 2 million, that would pale in comparison to the amount of people who will die if the war in Ukraine lasts as long as the war in Iraq. Iraq exports oil. Ukraine exportz grain. People can live without cars and plastics. People can't live without food in their stomach.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

An extremely conservative estimate is actually around 4 million. We will probably never know the true number (As is true of most wars, but America intentionally makes record keeping of civilian deaths caused by their actions to be very difficult to track.)

Yemen and Iraq import a vast majority of their food. It's a desert. They need to eat, too. Are their lives somehow less valuable then others?

I also seem to recall a grain export deal that was upheld by Russia. Your argument that you are using to justify minimizing what America did seems a bit disingenuous.

Edit: Typos fixed, and more context added to numbers of deaths.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not Minimizing anything you said 1 million, i said even 2 million, then you say actually its 4 million stop minimizing what the USA did I'm not gonna engage with you anymore or next it will be 8 million and I'm Minimizing it by saying 4 million died.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

1,000,000 in Iraq. 4 million in the middle east if you include Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and Sudan. Those last two aren't in the middle east, but they also don't contribute too much to that number.

Millions. Iraq alone is estimated at around 1,000,000

is what I said.

I'm sorry that you have shitty reading comprehension skills. I'm starting to understand why US propaganda about the US wars in the middle east are so effective on you.

EDIT: Shit, I forgot that Libya is a part of the 4 million, and it isn't a part of the middle east, and it was a big part of that number. I still think it is a valid number to count all of the US's wars.

[–] SixSidedUrsine@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you even been following the war at all?! ive seen 4k videos of Russia bombing Ukrainian Civilians for months now

Russia has been extremely restrained in destroying Ukrainian infrastructure, especially in the first year of the war. It has also made strong efforts to avoid civilian casualties. Considering it wants to incorporate the zones where there is the greatest conflict into being part of the Russian Federation, it's not like this is surprising either. I'm sure this sounds shocking or ludicrous to someone who has been closely following along, and I do take your word for it that you have. But there is a very good reason for that. To explain:

I have also been following the war extremely closely since the beginning, including from countless telegram channels of people on the ground on both sides in addition to official outlets and what I've seen is a massive amount of ridiculous false propaganda spewing out of Ukraine's official outlets that the west eats up and repeats without question, often amplifying the false parts and making up even more. It is to the benefit of both the current Ukrainian rulers and the west to make this propaganda, so I'm not saying Ukraine is doing this to the west, I'm saying they're both complicit. Yes, I've seen plenty of propaganda from Russia too, obviously, but it is nowhere near the same scale or level of outright lying about what's actually happening on the ground, not because Russia is somehow above all that (it's definitely not) but because it has far less need for such false propaganda. (It is also arguably not as good at propaganda as the West which has the most developed propaganda apparatus in the history of humanity).

There is material reasons behind all of this. Ukraine relies almost entirely on NATO countries for its ability to wage war, this is not in question. It therefore needs to sell that war as not only just, but winnable - and whatever you you think of how just it is, it is definitely not winnable in terms of taking back the currently occupied regions let alone Crimea. That will simply never happen. NATO also has a vested interest in Ukraine winning this war, and in many ways is NATO's proxy war, so it also has an interest in pushing this propaganda on the people of its member nations. However, Russia has ramped up production of its war machine (and is highly self sufficient despite what some western propaganda might say about them having to fight with shovels lol) and importantly is not dependent on other countries to wage this war. It doesn't need to sell this war internationally and It doesn't even need to sell this war to the Russian populace who already broadly support it. Hence the large difference in amount and severity of false propaganda. If you have been following the war closely, but you have been relying entirely or mostly on Ukrainian, Western, and NATO information (which is understandable because it's really all you get offered in the west), you have been closely following a massively lopsided story being told to you by someone who isn't just distorting fact, but outright lying.

Since you specifically mentioned bombing of infrastructure, here is one example I just happened on in a different thread today. It's from the New York Times, which has been one of the cringiest large network liars throughout the conflict, but even here they are making an admission that what was claimed to be Russian attack was actually Ukraine itself. This happens all the time but usually admissions aren't made or are done very quietly so everyone believes the first story of "look at how horrible Russia is!" My suspicion is that admissions like these are starting to happen more often because there is beginning to be a shift in the narrative and propaganda as it becomes increasingly clear how unwinnable this is for Ukraine and NATO is beginning to look to pull support.

NYT: Evidence Suggests Ukrainian Missile Caused Market Tragedy

From their original article:

A Russian missile strike in Kostyantynivka that killed at least 17 and injured more than 30 others was one of the deadliest in months.

There are tons of other examples of this, but I don't currently have access to the laptop I saved all my sources on. Anyway, the reality is that you are being lied to constantly about the crimes Russia is supposedly committing, at the very least, the severity of them. And it's helpful to understand why.

I know I'll get called a Russian bot/shill for pointing these things out. Whatever. I have no love for Russia. Fuck Putin and the reactionary Russian government. But I really do despise the intensity of misinformation I've been witnessing and how it gets repeated by genuinely well-meaning people around me (I'm in the west too) who only have access to lies that are perpetuating death and human misery.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought chapo gold for this post. gold-communist