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[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Without doing a moral calculation, what I can say is that shooting people in the head is less effective in dealing with climate change then blowing up oil pipelines.

Blowing up oil pipelines will make it more expensive for oil companies to do business. This will decrease the amount of oil production which will directly effect how much CO2 is put into the atmosphere.

How effective will it be? Will it stop climate change? Those questions are unknowable at this point in time. But it is pretty clear that we're getting to a point where lots of people are going to start dying due to climate change.

[–] Decompose@programming.dev -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree with you, and I think if we stop using oil hundreds of millions will starve in days.

Do I care what you think? No, I don't give two shits about your opinion on climate change. I'm done discussing it. However, you're free to have all the stupid opinions you want. Just don't use violence because you don't have a monopoly on it, we all can do it.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I disagree with you

Wait, about what? Are you saying that shooting people in the head is more effective in dealing with climate change that blowing up oil pipelines?

I think if we stop using oil hundreds of millions will starve in days

I agree with this, and I never said we should stop using oil. I think we should definitely use less though. We should try to use as little as possible. We will still need plastics for medical stuff.

Just don’t use violence because you don’t have a monopoly on it, we all can do it.

A lot of people are about to die due to climate change. I think if you want them to not do violence, you had better start convincing them that they have a shot to survive this. Telling them that violence is bad is not going to do it. Honestly, blowing up a few pipes is pretty low price, all things considered. Things have the possibility to get much worse than some property damage.

I would 100% prefer that governments take action to slow down oil production and push hard for more climate friendly policies, but they are not.