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[–] kozel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Could you elaborate on the lost sense of traditions?

Also I don't agree with you about the 'nationality not ethnicity' thing, but that really may vary, and I don't think it would be possible to debate that, as we'd first have to define the difference between nat. and eth., they seem to be ~the same thing to me.

[–] britishblaze@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ethnicity generally includes your skin colour in the description whilst nationality has none of that.

Though I don't agree that someone who just simply moves to another country changes nationality, it's a tricky definition as it can be confused with citizenship but it's more to do with long you stay there and if you embrace the culture.

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you elaborate on the lost sense of traditions?

i mean the things that are associated with their home culture is lost, like an associated religion, wedding traditions, etc.

[–] kozel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

ethnicity and nationality is not the same btw

"Ethnic membership tends to be defined by a shared cultural heritage, ancestry, origin myth, history, homeland, language, dialect, religion, mythology, folklore, ritual, cuisine, dressing style, art, or physical appearance. Ethnic groups may share a narrow or broad spectrum of genetic ancestry, depending on group identification, with many groups having mixed genetic ancestry."

nationality is just where you live, you might not have heritage to that place

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

we'd first have to define the difference between nat. and eth., they seem to be ~the same thing to me

Nationality is the nation you are a citizen of. Ethnicity is the ethnic group(s) you identify with.

In Europe, these are largely the same. The only multi-ethnic countries I can think of are Russia, the UK and Spain.

But in most parts of the world, one country would have multiple ethnic groups, and one ethnic group may be spread across multiple countries. For example, China has Han people, Mongols, Muslims, Tibetans and so on. Of these, the Mongols also live in Mongolia and Russia, the Tibetans also in India and Nepal, and so on.

Again, in Europe it seems to be common for people to identify primarily with their nation (except Catalans, Scots, etc.) But elsewhere, since the borders were often drawn by outsiders, people often identify more with their ethnic group. This unfortunately leads to a lot of conflict.