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Are you saying black lives don't matter?
Where is the debate on the statement "black lives matter"? Please argue against that statement.
No what you're saying is that the statement has been politicized by bad actors. But those are the politics of the bad actors, not politics around the statement itself.
Should the depiction of the Earth as being round be banned as well? There is controversy around that, by idiots and grifters of course, but how is it different about the controversy around BLM?
Surely you share the same opinion about those who wear gear that says "All lives matter"? They're just good people preaching a message of love?
Maybe I would if I bash my head into a wall enough to cause enough brain damage that I don't understand that "all lives matter" is part of the politicization effort by bad actors.
See there is an actual real world where people did things with motives that are very well understood. If your "logical" arguments are completely dependent on ignoring specific realities, it's not really a logical argument at all. Demanding someone ignore reality so you can have a big "aha! I proved you to be a hypocrite!" kind of moment is rather silly isn't it?
So you only bashed your head enough to not understand that the phrase "Black Lives Matter" is borne out of a social/political movement?
Are you saying all lives don't matter?
Where is the debate on the statement "all lives matter"? Please argue against that statement.
You are arguing in bad faith. BLM came out of police brutality targeting predominantly black communities. Period. End of story. If you don't understand that, that's because you're willfully ignorant of the world happening around you.
Are you lost? That's exactly what I'm saying...
All lives literally can’t matter if you’re already excluding some in that, that’s the whole point of Black Lives Matter you doofus.
Remember, Black people count as people too, and as long as their lives don’t matter as much then the saying, “All lives matter” is false. Because if you cared about all lives, then you’d be caring about the black lives that are disproportionately harmed and murdered.
And one only needs to take a look at society here in America to see the black lives are treated way worse than white lives. Nearly all facets of our society have some built-in racism whether you’re just going to the hospital with chest pains or trying to buy or sell your house. You’re gonna get worse quality of everything just because of your skin color and that’s verifiable fact.
And yet all they want you to do is recognize that they’re being killed at a much higher rate than other people, and want you to care about that. And for some reason that triggers you so.
Saying all lives matter, and believing that is like having a life raft on a boat, and seeing some people drowning, but you decided to throw the life raft to the people at a table, eating shrimp. You know, because all lives matter. Black Lives Matter is just recognizing the drowning people and trying to help them.
You're lost -- I'm not defending the All Lives Matter mantra.
I'm pointing out that Black Lives Matter isn't merely a benign statement of fact, it's a statement borne out of a social/political movement. Which you obviously agree with, based on what you wrote out.
No. Because they are in bad faith inverting the wording of the phrase to sound like "muh common sense" but in reality are just reactionary contrarians that are communicating their social conservative opinions.