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It’s not hard to just stop eating animals but these people will come up with any excuse to keep supporting totally unnecessary meat consumption. It’s disgusting and abhorrent.
You're not going to change any minds by shutting on the people you're proselytizing to.
Give it a few more years until lab-grown meat is cheaper than live animals, and then recommend that as an alternative. People are more motivated by money than ethics.
Yeah I don’t believe I’m going to change anyone’s mind. Everyone around me says I’m so “honorable” and “respectful” because I keep my mouth shut but do they ever change? No. It’s always “I’m thinking about going vegan” then eating a barrel at KFC. So forget that.
Habits are hard to break, and the other person needs to have an incentive to stop eating meat and/or animal products. Much like New Years Resolutions, those "I'm thinking of" thoughts are just going to be dropped because there's no tangible motivation to follow through with them.
You can try convincing people by teaching them the health benefits from avoiding red meats, but realistically, you're not going to get far. There's a lot of misinformation and outdated research on the viability of vegetarian and vegan diets, and it's hard to change somebody's mind when they feel like it might be unhealthy.
This is why I'm hopeful for lab-grown meat being cheaper than actual meat. You're going to have the "GMO science evil" crowd that can't be helped, but the average consumer would gladly trade their ground beef for an equivalent-tasting alternative that saves them money. It's not vegetarian or vegan, but it solves the ethical issue of factory farming.
If you don't believe you're going to change anyone's mind what are you doing except virtue signalling?
I’m not eating dead animals and paying for their unnecessary murder. I’m also not under the delusion that I’m going to change anyone’s mind; really don’t get why everyone assumes that.
Cuz they take it personally and then proceed to project onto you.
pulses, whole grains and vegetables are cheaper than flesh and secretions of animals
Cheap lab grown meat is not "a few years" out. Furthermore, this is like saying you shouldn't berate people for owning slaves because they are just waiting for robots to come along that can fulfill the same tasks. Even if some magical x factor will cause everyone to be vegan two years from now that would not excuse the conditions we subject animals to in the present.