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[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dont think so, as one is offensively violent and authoritarian out of fancy while the other is defensively violent and authoritarian out of self-preservation

[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Both can be offensively violent but the types of people drawn to either vary widely. For example I cannot say I know any socialists who were individually racist (as opposed to racist by virtue of being American as structural racism runs deep).

Horseshoe theory is bullshit

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I kill its because I'm defending myself, if you kill its because you are violent!

Say both sides...

Are you seriously trying to say that communist governments haven't committed mass murder on an industrial scale just to fortify their power structures?

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you use one "communist" government to slander all of them then we can reasonably say that England is proof that capitalism is violently evil and invasive and Spain is proof that christianity is a violent and murderous ideology that should never be allowed on the face of the earth.

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

This sounds like some bullshit said by people who cant understand the basic difference between right and wrong. Or by a fascist. Whichever.

There IS A DIFFERENCE between offensive and defensive violence. The only ones who say otherwise are the offensively violent ones...who also lie about their violence.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which one is defensively violent? Hexbears said I should get nuked and they claim to exist on the left (they present as alt-righty if you ask me)

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which one is holding executive and legislative power and has actively oppressed the other?

(Hint: not the left)

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Well I don't get threatened with nuclear annihilation everyday. I guess it was a weird one-off event (haha; I am being sarcastic).

[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are unfamiliar with the altright if you think hexbear is at all right. They are leftists and many are revolutionary leftists but no one there for long is altright.

For fucks sake this al, comes about from the ChapoTrapHouse subreddit getting banned.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see the world in a two dimensional way where people are placed into one of two camps based on a single characteristic;

Have they called for my death.

So I don't give a shit what they (or anyone else) has to say about their political leanings. It's all the same trash, and I lack the respect necessary to differentiate them.

So yea I say they're alt right. If that upsets you, too bad.

[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It just means you don't know what the right is and are proud about that fact. It doesn't upset anyone but why make obviously uninformed claims like that?

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you really think I don't know the difference between left and right political camps instead of using the wrong terminology as a sign of disrespect you may want to try seeing this conversation less literally.

To be clear, you not recognizing my style of trolling isn't me getting "dunked on".

[–] aport@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

defensively violent and authoritarian out of self-preservation

LOL

The irony here is that if you actually had two cows in the late 1920's USSR you'd catch a bullet.

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That sounds like some classic radical right wing reationary propaganda courtesy of Reagan and Kissinger

[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't owning cows as an individual be a form of theft in the USSR of the 1920s? Wouldn't they be the collective's cows and if you made them "yours" you were stealing?

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doubt it seriously, and no not necessarily as having and owning arent the same thing

[–] aport@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ronald Reagan, famous time traveller.

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I did say "classic".. as in inspired by Reagan and repeated ad neauseum by every single radical right wing talk show pundit for the past 43 years

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Same as 1700s US if you were a Quaker