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Is there no way to index discord chats? Is Matrix a viable discord alternative? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Subject6051@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I was going through this wonderful thread https://lemmy.ml/post/4540882 and found many of you talking about discord as it's a crime against knowledge for not allowing indexing on it. I think we are talking about indexing by search engines like DDG and Google here and I know that discord questions don't show up in search results and it's somewhat of a closed source system, which is terrible. Now, is there no way to index these chats on discord?
Also, is Matrix a viable alternative to discord and are Matrix chats indexable and are they indexed on google or duckduckgo? And are Matrix public chats indexed? Does Matrix have features such as creating a thread to ask question and somewhat of a forum like structure that discord has?

Unfortunately, I know for a fact that Matrix would probably not replace Discord as Linux would not replace Windows, although both Linux and Matrix are definitely better and more open. There are not enough people on Matrix when compared to Discord and this will never happen unless Discord messes up big (look at you reddit)

I know this is not a support forum, but a short question, what is the alternative to https://discord.com/servers, here discord lists all it's public servers and you can find one which suits your interest and join in. I haven't found the equivalent to this for Matrix yet.

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[–] ptman@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Matrix is viable. There are https://view.matrix.org and soon https://archive.matrix.org/ for indexing by crawlers
https://servers.joinmatrix.org/ isn't quite the same as https://discord.com/servers. Joinmatrix lists matrix home servers, like gmail, hotmail, yahoo, ... for email. But once you have an account on a home server, you can use the "explore" feature to browse rooms known to that server (or another that has public room directory). There is not central place to list all, since there is not single central matrix server. Same with lemmy. You need to use https://lemmyverse.net/communities